no its not hidden, just nothing there. actually lost both for a bit but managed to recover the top one to a useable state but not the bottom, cant get the program taskbar back thanks david On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 15:19 -0400, Claude Jones wrote: > On Sun July 31 2005 3:21 am, david smethurst wrote: > > hi all > > i have lost the bottom toolbar in fc4 - 32bit > > how can i get it back with all that it had? > > thanks > > david > Are you referring to the Panel at the bottom of the desktop screen? Perhaps, > you turned on auto-hiding by accident? You can check by just hovering your > mouse pointer near the very bottom of the screen. > -- > Claude Jones > Bluemont, VA, USA >