Regardless of all points taken in this discussion think a moment of the humor of the whole thing, please. The repair for Linux is one file that is not even an executable. For my case it's the usr share file: "/usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles" Now think of what this will probably mean for all the "high powered" Windows 2003 servers out there that the "smart IT managers" have installed on their huge server farms. I bet it requires them all to be rebooted for this one wee tiny fix. I just gotta snort with laughter. (And for what it is worth - why not simply adopt DST all year long? And of course, the way to do that is leave noon for a time zone with the Sun within a half hour of the zenith position and let the schools or work places shift their start times and stop times. But, that's too logical.) {^_-} ----- Original Message ----- From: "Callahan, Michael" <MichaelCallahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Point taken; I intended to keep out of it, but I found it impossible to be > silent on that last remark. You're right, this has gotten way off topic. > This thread should end. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Malone [mailto:ibm21@xxxxxxxxx] > > Callahan, Michael wrote: > > > > > > > Let's say that those whom you "understand" got their own country (or > > countries) and had achieved all of their political and social aims. > > What would that world be like? I would like to understand your > > understanding of these people. > > > > If you had to live there or in America, what would be your choice, and > why? > > > > > > And, more importantly for our purposes, what would be their needs wrt FC5? > > (and is any one else finding this tedious?) > > -- > imalone