On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Michael Schwendt wrote: ... snip ... > The policy for Core and Extras, that they must not conflict and that > Extras must not upgrade Core, is a foundation for an extended set of > base packages, which can be built upon. E.g. by a 3rd party > repository like rpm.livna.org. It's up to rpm.livna.org to play well > with this base just like Extras plays well with Core. Every opposite > behaviour is a bug. yeah, what he said (i think). it may be that i'm looking at this too simplistically but here's what i think is not acceptable behaviour. as a test, i disabled every yum repo except for fedora's "base" and "updates-released" since i know i can trust them. trying to "yum update" showed me that there were no updates for my current system. good. now i enabled the single repository "kde-redhat-stable". # yum list updates ... several dozen updateable packages, mostly KDE-related ... # yum update ... snip ... Error: Missing Dependency: graphviz is needed by package kdesdk Error: Missing Dependency: libmad.so.0 is needed by package arts Error: Missing Dependency: libsamplerate.so.0 is needed by package kdemultimedia Error: Missing Dependency: liblcms.so.1 is needed by package kdegraphics Error: Missing Dependency: libgnokii.so.2 is needed by package kdepim Error: Missing Dependency: /usr/bin/pinentry-qt is needed by package kdepim Error: Missing Dependency: libmad.so.0 is needed by package kdemultimedia Error: Missing Dependency: libtag.so.1 is needed by package k3b Error: Missing Dependency: libtag.so.1 is needed by package kdemultimedia Error: Missing Dependency: libsamplerate.so.0(libsamplerate.so.0.0) is needed by package k3b Error: Missing Dependency: libgpgme.so.11(GPGME_1.0) is needed by package kdepim Error: Missing Dependency: libgpgme.so.11 is needed by package kdepim Error: Missing Dependency: libsndfile.so.1(libsndfile.so.1.0) is needed by package k3b Error: Missing Dependency: libsamplerate.so.0(libsamplerate.so.0.0) is needed by package kdemultimedia Error: Missing Dependency: liblcms.so.1 is needed by package ImageMagick-perl Error: Missing Dependency: liblcms.so.1 is needed by package ImageMagick Error: Missing Dependency: libjasper-1.701.so.1 is needed by package ImageMagick Error: Missing Dependency: libsndfile.so.1 is needed by package k3b Error: Missing Dependency: libxine.so.1 is needed by package kdemultimedia Error: Missing Dependency: libjasper-1.701.so.1 is needed by package kdelibs Error: Missing Dependency: libsamplerate.so.0 is needed by package k3b Error: Missing Dependency: libmp3lame.so.0 is needed by package kdemultimedia Error: Missing Dependency: libmad.so.0 is needed by package libtunepimp now, in my humble (and perhaps thoroughly deluded) opinion, that repository is broken. yes, i'm aware that it's not an "official" FC repository. that's not the point. from my perspective, if i try to add a single external repository to my current set and it causes errors like the above, it's broken. (now, it's entirely possible that, because of the screwing around i was doing yesterday, i've got a system that, while it works, has some funny combinations of packages that is causing this. regardless, my point above still holds -- adding an external repo, official or not, to the mix and getting errors like this should be considered a bug.) thoughts. rday