Hi, In a pentium machine running FC4 that I just helped a friend upgrade (and install xine, bittorrent, change mirrors to update faster, etc) I notice that a user's volume applet on the gnome panel doesn't change. If a user tries to change the level of the column, the marker reverts to it's original position and nothing changes. alsamixer however, does work. I was wondering, where could the problem be? I first guessed that perhaps the user needs to belong to the "audio" (or "sound") group, but such a group doesn't exist. The device /dev/dsp is actually root:root owned: > ls -l /dev/dsp crw------- 1 root root 14, 3 Feb 23 2004 /dev/dsp And on a maybe related note, why are /dev/hdc (for optical drive) permissions root:disk? Does a normal user need be a "disk" group member? Shouldn't the optical drives belong to a 'cdrom' groups and all users who can use drive should also be 'cdrom' group members? thanks, ->HS -- Please remove the underscores ( the '_' symbols) from my email address to obtain the correct one. Apologies, but the fudging is to remove spam.