I propose that the standard Gnome About Box should show the name of the running binary, so that in addition to the "pretty name" users would know the name of the program file and therefore the command to type. This is consistent with having a "Visible User Interface", where things that a user needs to know about are visible, and useless things are hidden. Microsoft Windows keeps the program name a secret, and I think MOSX does as well, while the old MacOS mostly used the same name for the application and the file it ran from, and showed that in the menus. As an old MacOS user, I find the current secrecy inconvenient and confusing, and it makes it hard to help people. Showing the name in the About Box would reduce the confusion I see on the list (and sometimes have shown myself) about the link between the various GUI settings tools and their command-line usage or equivalent. If the suggestion is well received here I will try to make it in the appropriate Gnomish place. ____________________________________________________________________ TonyN.:' <mailto:tonynelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ' <http://www.georgeanelson.com/>