I've finally managed to persuade my palm m130 to synchronise via its usb cradle. Here are the steps that I took;- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Try creating the following file: /etc/udev/rules.d/10-visor.rules with this line for content: BUS="usb", SYSFS{product}="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL="ttyUSB*", SYMLINK="pilot" and then /etc/udev/permissions.d/10-udev.permissions with this line for content pilot*:root:usb:0600 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I hope it helps others. Its a cobbling togethor of other folks ideas from this list, but it works! Sharon. -- 21:39:48 up 1 day, 16:18, 2 users, load average: 1.64, 1.64, 1.70 A taste of linux http://www.sharons.org.uk/taste/index.html efever http://www.efever.blogspot.com/ Fedora Core 4, KDE 3.4.1-1.2, OpenOffice 1.9.112 Registered Linux user 334501 Now accepting personal mail for gmail invites