On Thursday 14 July 2005 19:30, Michael A. Peters wrote: >On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 19:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Thursday 14 July 2005 18:45, Justin Zygmont wrote: >> >No, don't discuss this any further. This is far off topic, and >> > has wasted enough time already. >> >> Well, from my own experience, I do believe its a valid question. >> >> Look, sometimes an ego is going to get bruised, even if its mine >> because I didn't read all the caveats, or hold my chew in the >> correct side of my mouth, any one of a thousand things. But when >> one application (yum) consistently fubars the system, I don't care >> whose ego is bruised, it still needs to be fixed. If I'm running >> it wrong, then so be it, I can be directed. > >yum has never messed up my system. Count your good luck charms & see if I can borrow one or two. > >> But first, I have to get somebodies attention so they can tell me >> where I screwed up if indeed I did. >> >> Put this way, I let yum update 290 some packages. To get that >> far, I had to mv Pubkeys and rebuild the rpm database to restore >> it. When it was done, the kernel it installed won't boot, and >> when booted to the older version, now X complains it doesn't have >> perms to run, and I'm root doing the startx. If those facts >> bruise an ego, then I'm sorry, but it doesn't change the FACTS. > >Those don't sound like yum bugs to me - sound like bugs in either > the software or the packages. Or am I missing something? No, I don't think you are. I *think* I'm trying to shoot the messenger. The real question seems to me, how did this new kernel get past testing if it won't even boot? Thats now vmlinuz-2.6.12-1.1390_FC4, the matching initrd, System.map etc. The .1-1369 seems to be ok if I don't want to run X. And, what broke X? And, what broke kde's kicker panel? On a previous install, there was a report from yum that kde3/launcher_panelapplet.so errored, and it was repeated during this most recent yum session. That I believe is part of kdebase, which yum replaced everytime I could get a boot that could run yum. I think the kde3/launcher_panelapplet.so is related to the loss of the kicker panel at the bottom of the x screen that I had after the first yum update a week and about 7 installs back, correct? I just tried both gnome and kde, neither will run x. At this point, I don't think its an x problem or it would log an error. It is not now logging any errors. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.35% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.