-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike McCarty wrote: | I have ADSL connections, with a D-Link wireless router between | my box and the ADSL modem. I have disabled the wireless part | of the router, and removed its antenna. Only the one machine | is actually connected to the router. I use Mozilla (cookies disabled, | java disabled) and Thunderbird (use server connections). | | So, what is my "vulnerability"? | | This is a serious question. Well the recent libz vuln will allow merely browsing to an evil site to take over your machine with your main user account privs by sending you a poisionous .png. Unless you have updated your libz with the security update. Even than anything else with libz compiled in statically is vulnerable. And how do you create such a canonical list of apps when the (small, for zlib) sources may be composed into the app itself? So there is only a probability of safety eaten away by uncertainty, you can never prove there are no vulns so you can never really be certain of safety. Particularly all Fedora installs could be compromised by tampering with upstream source distributions... you can't disprove it (and let's hope nobody ever proves it!). "Mozilla" is a giant teetering edifice of everchanging code that you have never seen piled on top of megabytes libraries you never heard of and do not even have the source for on your machine. You have no idea what that composite mishmash is going to REALLY do when you run it, if it comes up with a browser you assume all is well. But you (and the rest of us as users) really know NOTHING about the true list of things it does that might expose you to danger. We certainly have no idea of all the hands that particular source tree (and that of the libs) has been through before the guy at Redhat compiled and signed it. We can't know all the vulns like zlib buffer overflows that are yet to be found. Really the only way to cope with this is to accept that you could have been compromised at any time - already. Not to assume you are safe because you turned off this or that feature. - -Andy -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC1UKdjKeDCxMJCTIRAgKSAJ4wIwlm2DRPgaq08OPgEfPjDEtoeQCfVez/ sGZ+s3+x1E+P3n5tPmLeZiQ= =QQ9a -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----