On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:19:33PM +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > A bug is a bug, and should be corrected, not excused. > > I think Fedora-4 is pretty good, > but too many bugs got past those who should have been looking for them. > Linus Torvalds has a far more difficult job with the kernel, > and very little seems to get past him and his team. What you and the other whiners on this thread have fogotten is that you lot are part of "those who should have been looking for them". This project relies on community support and testing, and if you don't help with the testing on your particular setup, which is probably different from many other people's, you're going to end up with things not working for you. If your need is for the kind of distribution where you can just be a consumer, may I suggest that you have a look over there in the corner at RHEL, where you can pay (in money) for the privilege. Make no mistake, whatever you do, you will pay - either in money for a commercial distribution, or in the time and effort of testing and helping provide new packages, or in the inconvenience and irritation of finding out that your configuration doesn't work. Pick your poison - just don't complain if you haven't put in the effort to make sure things work for you. -- Cheers! (Relax...have a homebrew) Neil THEOREM: VI is perfect. PROOF: VI in roman numerals is 6. The natural numbers < 6 which divide 6 are 1, 2, and 3. 1+2+3 = 6. So 6 is a perfect number. Therefore, VI is perfect. QED -- Arthur Tateishi