Hi all, Im not sure if this is the proper group to post this concern in, but Im hoping someone can help me solve this. I've been trying (and failing miserably) at getting my Treo 650 to 'talk' to my FC4 box. I've tried several solutions along the lines of creating a 10-palm or 10-visor file in the /etc/udev directory. I've tried linking /dev/pilot to /dev/ttyUSB1 or /dev/ttyUSB0. They dont seem to work. I used to be able to sync the Treo 650 perfectly (well, not really, but enough to sync the important stuff and backup) with my FC3 box. Now, though, I noticed that there is a LONG wait from the time I push the hotsync button on the usb cable of the Treo to the time it actually shows up in the /dev directory. Normally, once I hit the hotsync button, I could click the kpilot/jpilot hotsync button and not worry about it failing. Any ideas? please? (im not sure what logs, i should include... so i just included the /var/log/message log and the 10-palm.rules file. Thanks in advance, Sarah ---- in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-palm.rules US="usb", SYSFS{product}="Palm, Inc.*", KERNEL="ttyUSB*", NAME{ignore_remove}="pilot", MODE="666" in /var/log/messages file: Jul 11 13:11:04 littlebunny kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 18 Jul 11 13:11:05 littlebunny kernel: usb 1-2: device not accepting address 18, error -71 Jul 11 13:11:05 littlebunny kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 19 Jul 11 13:11:05 littlebunny kernel: visor 1-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected Jul 11 13:11:05 littlebunny kernel: usb 1-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Jul 11 13:11:05 littlebunny kernel: usb 1-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1 Jul 11 13:13:16 littlebunny kernel: usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 19 Jul 11 13:13:16 littlebunny kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Jul 11 13:13:16 littlebunny kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 Jul 11 13:13:16 littlebunny kernel: visor 1-2:1.0: device disconnected -- sarah c. azurin "I never let my schooling get in the way of my education." -- Mark Twain