As mentioned, I can't su. Here is /var/log/messages and the rpm log messages: Jul 8 14:45:59 bb197-165 su(pam_unix)[5234]: session opened for user jr by root(uid=0) Jul 8 14:46:03 bb197-165 pam_timestamp_check: pam_timestamp: `/' owner UID != 0 Jul 8 14:46:07 bb197-165 su(pam_unix)[5251]: authentication failure; logname=root uid=500 euid=500 tty= ruser=jr rhost= user=root Jul 8 14:46:08 bb197-165 pam_timestamp_check: pam_timestamp: `/' owner UID != 0 Fri Jul 8 08:20:57 2005] up2date availablePackageList from network [Fri Jul 8 08:25:20 2005] up2date installing packages: ['kernel-2.6.11-1.35_FC3', 'HelixPlayer-1.0.5-0.fc3.2', 'ImageMagick-6.2.2.0-2.fc3', 'binutils-2.15.92.0.2-5.1', 'bzip2-1.0.2-13.FC3.1', 'bzip2-libs-1.0.2-13.FC3.1', 'checkpolicy-1.17.5-1.2', 'gaim-1.3.1-0.fc3', 'gamin-0.1.1-1.FC3', 'gedit-2.8.1-2.fc3.1', 'gzip-1.3.3-15.fc3', 'info-4.8-2.1', 'libpcap-0.8.3-9.FC3', 'mikmod-3.1.6-31.FC3', 'netpbm-10.27-4.FC3.1', 'netpbm-progs-10.27-4.FC3.1', 'openssh-3.9p1-8.0.2', 'openssh- askpass-3.9p1-8.0.2', 'openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-8.0.2', 'openssh- clients-3.9p1-8.0.2', 'openssh-server-3.9p1-8.0.2', 'selinux-policy- targeted-1.17.30-3.16', 'spamassassin-3.0.4-1.fc3', 'sudo-1.6.7p5-30.3', 'tcpdump-3.8.2-9.FC3', 'util-linux-2.12a-24.3', 'yum-2.2.1-0.fc3', 'zlib-1.2.1.2-2.fc3'] [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date Modifying bootloader config to include the new kernel info [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date Adding 2.6.11-1.35_FC3 to bootloader config [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date Adding 2.6.11-1.35_FC3 to bootloader config [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date Running lilo with the new configuration [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date Modifying bootloader config to include the new kernel info [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date Adding 2.6.11-1.35_FC3 to bootloader config [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date Running lilo with the new configuration [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/kernel-2.6.11-1.35_FC3.i686.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/kernel-2.6.11-1.35_FC3.i686.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/HelixPlayer-1.0.5-0.fc3.2.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/HelixPlayer-1.0.5-0.fc3.2.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/ImageMagick-6.2.2.0-2.fc3.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/ImageMagick-6.2.2.0-2.fc3.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/binutils-2.15.92.0.2-5.1.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/binutils-2.15.92.0.2-5.1.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/bzip2-1.0.2-13.FC3.1.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/bzip2-1.0.2-13.FC3.1.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/bzip2- libs-1.0.2-13.FC3.1.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/bzip2- libs-1.0.2-13.FC3.1.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/checkpolicy-1.17.5-1.2.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/checkpolicy-1.17.5-1.2.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/gaim-1.3.1-0.fc3.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/gaim-1.3.1-0.fc3.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/gamin-0.1.1-1.FC3.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/gamin-0.1.1-1.FC3.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/gedit-2.8.1-2.fc3.1.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/gedit-2.8.1-2.fc3.1.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/gzip-1.3.3-15.fc3.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/gzip-1.3.3-15.fc3.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/info-4.8-2.1.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/info-4.8-2.1.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/libpcap-0.8.3-9.FC3.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:42 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/libpcap-0.8.3-9.FC3.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/mikmod-3.1.6-31.FC3.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/mikmod-3.1.6-31.FC3.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/netpbm-10.27-4.FC3.1.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/netpbm-10.27-4.FC3.1.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/netpbm- progs-10.27-4.FC3.1.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/netpbm- progs-10.27-4.FC3.1.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/openssh-3.9p1-8.0.2.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/openssh-3.9p1-8.0.2.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/openssh- askpass-3.9p1-8.0.2.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/openssh- askpass-3.9p1-8.0.2.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/openssh- askpass-gnome-3.9p1-8.0.2.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/openssh- askpass-gnome-3.9p1-8.0.2.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/openssh- clients-3.9p1-8.0.2.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/openssh- clients-3.9p1-8.0.2.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/openssh- server-3.9p1-8.0.2.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/openssh- server-3.9p1-8.0.2.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/selinux- policy-targeted-1.17.30-3.16.noarch.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/selinux- policy-targeted-1.17.30-3.16.noarch.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/spamassassin-3.0.4-1.fc3.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/spamassassin-3.0.4-1.fc3.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/sudo-1.6.7p5-30.3.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/sudo-1.6.7p5-30.3.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/tcpdump-3.8.2-9.FC3.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/tcpdump-3.8.2-9.FC3.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/util- linux-2.12a-24.3.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/util- linux-2.12a-24.3.i386.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/yum-2.2.1-0.fc3.noarch.hdr [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/yum-2.2.1-0.fc3.noarch.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/zlib-1.2.1.2-2.fc3.i386.rpm [Fri Jul 8 08:29:43 2005] up2date deleting /var/spool/up2date/zlib-1.2.1.2-2.fc3.i386.hdr > Hello, > > I can't su to root anymore. > > I used up2date this morning to get my system updated and then su stopped > working. > > I can use various applications like "root password" that requires a root > password be entered before it run and I can log in as root but su simply > does not work. I changed the root password successfully but still can't > su. > > I get a "su: incorrect password" error though am 1000% sure it's right. > > Probably I should be reporting more but am not sure what logs to check. > > I did check /var/logs/messages after logging in as root and saw > verification errors when I su'd to a regular user and then tried to su > up to root. I don't have the exact message now though. > > Any ideas of what I can do? > > As for my yum conf I have (could there be some kind of conflicts in > them?) > > [dag] > name=Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core > baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/fedora/$releasever/en/$basearch/dag gpgcheck=1 > enabled=1 > > [updates-released] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates > #baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch/ > mirrorlist=http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/updates-released-fc > $releasever > enabled=1 > gpgcheck=1 > > [base] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base > #baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/ > mirrorlist=http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-core- > $releasever > enabled=1 > gpgcheck=1 > > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Test Updates > #baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/$releasever/$basearch/ > mirrorlist=http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/updates-testing-fc > $releasever > enabled=0 > gpgcheck=1 > > > > Shawn >