Will try all suggestions tomorrow. I'm too tired tonight. I still don't see why this has to be so damn difficult. It was a breeze to install mplayer under FC3. I also have mplayer working perfectly on my Kubuntu laptop. Its FC4 that is giving me the problem. And like I said, I've installed from source, I've installed from rpm via the livna repository, via atrpm (after removing the packages from the livna install. However, there are a couple of things in Ben's post that I will try tomorrow. And I do know how to remove the files from a source install even without a removal utility. After reinstalling, I'll try Amadeus' suggestion to see if I can get output. Regards, Colleen