--- "Scot L. Harris" <webid@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 16:35, Richard Kelsch wrote: > > Scot L. Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 04:52, Richard Kelsch > wrote: > > > > > I like and want to use Linux, not spend hours > working out problems in > > > > getting it to work. BAD! BAD!! It's like > buying a hydrogen powered > > > > car. Sure, it's new, clean, and neato-keen > with all the nerds out > > > > there, but your screwed being to actually fill > it with fuel. Shame on > > > > you if you live outside of Seattle or San > Francisco (Fanboy capitals of > > > > the continent). Your new, bitchin' car is a > brick. The same goes using > > > > FC4 outside it's core software, your PC is a > brick as well. > > > > > > > Understand that FC is a test bed. Red Hat is > using it as a rapid > > > development platform. They will take the things > that work and > > > incorporate them into RHEL. FC is a time based > release, it will have > > > problems, guaranteed. It says this on the main > fedora web site. > > > > > > If you want a Red Hat like system that is more > stable you should try > > > Centos. It is a rebuilt version of the latest > RHEL. Currently it is > > > roughly equivalent to FC3 at the moment. > > > What part of "test bed" did you not understand? > You even said it > > yourself. I tested it and found flaws. What? > Could it be you don't > > want to know about these issues? How good is > testing if you can't > > handle it when someone finds something wrong? > Think my friend. This > > is me testing FC4 and finding what I consider > problems. Learn from > > these problems and understand the word "test" more > thoroughly. When > > you "test" you are looking for problems. When a > problem is found, it > > is a good idea to fix it. > > I must have missed the part where you said you were > testing things. I > read your statement above "I like and want to use > Linux, not spend hours > working out problems in getting it to work." to mean > that you wanted a > stable release to run your software on. I > recommended Centos as a > viable option to that end. > > Because FC4 is a test bed for many bleeding edge > changes there will be > lots of problems that have to be sorted out. > > If you are testing FC4 and find problems the proper > thing to do is file > a bug report so the maintainers of the various > packages can verify and > fix such problems. Reporting the problems on the > list will not > necessarily get the problem report in front of the > programmer > responsible for that program or module. > > If you understood the nature of FC4 then you should > understand there > will be a certain amount of time that you will > "spend hours working out > problems in getting it to work." It is the nature > of the beast. :) > > And if you have specific problems or questions there > are many many > people on the list that are willing to try and help. > You just have to > ask. :) > > -- > Scot L. Harris > webid@xxxxxxxxxx > > network down, IP packets delivered via UPS > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > In my opinion, Fedora (and FC4) is a good linux distro. However, I think that any new version should be released at least each 1 or 1.5 year, instead of sooner. In my opinion, once again, before that period of time (1 - 1.5 year), a new version seems to be 'premature'. Why a new version about each 6 months? Ok. Are we 'desperate'? Fedora is a 'test bed', but why the rush? I migrated from Suse 9.1 Professional to FC4, because I also realized the same king of rush for releasing new versions, and I didn't like that distro at all. Because of 'rush' every new version became a 'problem'. So, once again, why to be in a hurry for release linux distroes? I hope Fedore be a good 'test bed'. I mean, test with quality in mind. I think Fedora has quality in mind... Hoffmann __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com