Can I just check I've got this right? I tried emailing fedora dash list at redhat dot com and nothing ever arrived that was visible in these archives. Ten minutes ago I subscribed and now I'm writing this, assuming that it will be accepted. You have to be subscribed for your communication to show up, yes? (Cf. for example, the situation where just anybody can post, and see their communication and all others' just by surfing.) Thanks, Fergus PS Just to be really un-gallant, having been here only the afore- mentioned ten minutes: it would really be rather convenient if the archives were accumulated bottom-up rather than top-down, so that when you clicked on [date], the month's most recent postings were what was listed on screen. Have you all talked about this 400 times already?!