Is there a web site with this information on it. Thanks Charlie -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:36 To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 16, Issue 179 Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Stuck on run-level 3 :-( (Andoni) 2. RE: RAID Recovery (Jason Hoffert) 3. Re: News Reader? (David Cary Hart) 4. Re: Not very happy with FC4 (Alexander Dalloz) 5. Anyone gotten Pan newsreader to compile on FC4? (Thomas Cameron) 6. Re: Intel+FC4 (Jerry DeLisle) 7. unable to login (korgull) 8. Problems with accents (Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter) 9. Re: FC4: Eclipse Fails to Save (mlenz@xxxxxxxxxx) 10. Fedora Core 4 users - having problems with RealPlayer? (Ryan Gammon) 11. Re: FC4: Eclipse Fails to Save (Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter) 12. Re: ncftpd on fc3 malfunctioning? (kristina clair) 13. Re: Stuck on run-level 3 :-( (Paul Howarth) 14. Issues with RHGB and broken xorg.conf files (Philip Prindeville) 15. Re: yum updated grub.conf badly (Matthew Miller) 16. Re: Any apt repos yet? (Matthew Miller) 17. Re: NetworkManager, Wireless and Fedora FC4 (Matthew Saltzman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:07:11 +0100 From: Andoni <andonilist@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Stuck on run-level 3 :-( To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <01df01c5735f$01796ef0$39e1a8c0@HOLODECK> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Same problem. /usr/X11R6/bin needs to be in your PATH. Try: $ PATH="$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin" $ startx &> x.output Also, what is the output of: $ echo $PATH Paul. ================ Adding it to path worked and then it tried really hard to startx but then it crashed out with an error that made me think it may not be using the correct video driver so I set it back to the Intel Generic but I got the same error message. This one: [root@localhost ~]# startx X Window System Version 6.8.2 Release Date: 9 February 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.9-1.906_ELsmp i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-1.667 #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25 EST 2004 i686 Build Date: 24 March 2005 Build Host: tweety.build.redhat.com Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.9-1.667 (bhcompile@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (gcc version 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3)) #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25 EST 2004 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jun 17 17:21:50 2005 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" Symbol xf86CreateI2CBusRec from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i740_drv.o is unresolved! Symbol xf86I2CBusInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i740_drv.o is unresolved! Agent pid 2780 waiting for X server to shut down [root@localhost ~]# ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:13:27 -0400 From: "Jason Hoffert" <jhoffert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: RAID Recovery To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <BBD0018412925A47AB3AA504D457A1494ABBC4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Thanks! This was actually a simple and straight forward process. Software RAID may seem fine, but it's awful when you don't know how to recover from a failure. Jason -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nigel Wade Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:20 AM To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: Re: RAID Recovery Jason Hoffert wrote: > I had setup software RAID on my Fedora Core 3 box with 3 RAID1 partition > sets. Well, one of my SCSI drives failed. I have now replaced the HD, > and the server is up but how do I rebuild the arrays? I've looked into > raidtools and it seems with raidhotadd it would be easy, but that's not > part of Fedora. Is there any quick and easy command using mdadm that > will repartition the new drive and re-create my arrays? Can I just > install raidtools and run their utilities without damaging my > partitions? > > > > Thanks! > > > You will need to partition the drive manually. But sfdisk makes this easier as the output of sfdisk can be formatted in such a was as to be used as the input to sfdisk to partition a disk. The incantation used to be: # sfdisk -l -uS -d <existing disk> | sfdisk <new disk> where <existing disk> is the device of the disk you want to have copied, and <new disk> is that of the new disk you are adding to the system. Don't get them the wrong way around ;-). This is what I have noted down for use on RH7.3, so check carefully to see if sfdisk has changed. After you've partitioned the drive, use mdadm to add the partitions to the RAIDs. After you've added the partitions check the status of each RAID to see if it's being re-built on the new disk. -- Nigel Wade, System Administrator, Space Plasma Physics Group, University of Leicester, Leicester, LE1 7RH, UK E-mail : nmw@xxxxxxxxxxxx Phone : +44 (0)116 2523548, Fax : +44 (0)116 2523555 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:13:59 -0400 From: David Cary Hart <Fedora@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: News Reader? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1119028439.5781.2.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 18:37 +0200, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > Am Fr, den 17.06.2005 schrieb Thomas Cameron um 16:19: > > > I know that Pan got dropped in FC4, but what is the preferred > > replacement? > > > > Thomas > > Hm, i thought to remember someone wanted to maintain Pan within Fedora > Extras. Is this plan dropped? > > http://dag.wieers.com/packages/pan/ > > As an alternate as I think Dag will rebuild it for FC4 soon. > > I like Pan more than Thunderbird's NNTP capabilities. > > Alexander The best solution IMO is to install leafnode which does all the work including RegEx filtering. Then you can use Evolution, Knode, T-Bird or just about anything (I use Evolution since I like the idea of one client for both). -- * Eliminate Spam: http://www.TQMcube.com/spam_trap.htm * RBLDNSD HowTo: http://www.TQMcube.com/rbldnsd.htm * Multi-RBL Check: http://www.TQMcube.com/rblcheck.htm ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:14:11 +0200 From: Alexander Dalloz <ad+lists@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Not very happy with FC4 To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1119028451.23545.228.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Am Fr, den 17.06.2005 schrieb Alexander Volovics um 15:23: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 08:21:47AM -0500, akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > 3) Backspace does not work when using vi(m) in xterm (or in mutt > > > under xterm). When using vi(m) in gnome-terminal backspace works > > > correctly. > > > This is fixed using the bugzilla note you ere referred to 155538 > > Just insert the line: *ttyModes: erase ^? <-- this is the backspace > > before the change. > > > and thes problems are fixed. > > I did this after Alexander Dalloz referred me to the relevant bug > in bugzilla where this was mentioned and indeed this fixes the > bug when using vi(m) in an xterm but I still see this curiously > enough when using vi in mutt in an xterm. So it is 50% fixed for me. > > I will walk through all this again tonight and see what happens. > > Alexander If you while using vim in mutt enter the command ":fix", does it repair the backspace behaviour? ":help fixdel" will give you some more helpful information about "t_kb". Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG http://pgp.mit.edu 0xB366A773 legal statement: http://www.uni-x.org/legal.html Fedora Core 2 GNU/Linux on Athlon with kernel 2.6.11-1.27_FC2smp Serendipity 19:07:54 up 24 days, 17:45, load average: 0.19, 0.18, 0.17 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20050617/bb3ee517/at tachment.bin ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:16:21 -0500 From: Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Anyone gotten Pan newsreader to compile on FC4? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1119028581.3557.41.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain I have Thunderbird's news reader interface, so I want to use Pan. It seems to fail during installation with an invalid incrementation error. Anyone know how to get around it? Thomas ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:17:19 -0700 From: Jerry DeLisle <jvdelisle@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Intel+FC4 To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <42B3059F.3070709@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed Caglar Ulkuderner wrote: > Hi all, > > I have D865GBF/D865PERC Desktop Board with 1024MB Kingston Ram. I downloaded > DVD and CD iso images. I checked sha1sums everything was ok. I burn DVD and > CD isos. When I tried to boot my computer it gave some errors and did not > boot. I tried that DVD and CD an other computer I worked. I tried to boot > FC3 in my computer it boot again. I think there is a problem on initrd and > vmlinux in isolinux directory. > > I will try to merge FC3 isolinux and FC4. And then i will try to make a > bootable DVD. Do anybody have an idea about this solution and problem? > > Thanks All > Caglar Ulkuderner > System Administrator / Computer Engineer, TUBITAK > I have a similar problem. There are several bug reports in bugzilla now, but no solution yet that I see. There is going to have to be an install patch of some sort, because you can't even get the system up and running. I tried to rpm install an FC3 kernel but it would not go because of all the dependencies. So I am not sure what to do at this point. Maybe i will try a clean install to a separate hard drive and see if I can find out more. Jerry ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:27:08 +0200 From: korgull <korgull@xxxxxxx> Subject: unable to login To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200506171927.09039.korgull@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I have FC4test3 installed and my mainboard gone funny last week. The date/time ran random by this faulty mainboard and I think this is the reason for my trouble now. I replaced the mainboard with exactly the same type and try to boot FC4test3. This works, but somehow I get an authentication error when trying to log in. Anyone knows why this error occurs and how I can get back to login in without reinstalling the whole box. Regards, Marcel ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:19:24 -0300 From: Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter <edson.richter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Problems with accents To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <42B3061C.5060503@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi! I'm using Fedora Core 3 with every update released until today. The problem I'm facing is I can't type accent vowels in Quanta Plus "visual editing". Recently I discovered I can't type accents in Scribus, and they told me it's KDE (or may be Qt) related bug. I'm using a LANG=pt_BR.ISO-8859-1 so I can support same encoding as Windows workstations around here, but I already tryied to use UTF-8 and didn't worked too. My keyboard is ABNT 2, and is working fine for every Gnome app. Either KDE apps (like KOffice) work fine. Until today (as far as I can see), only Quanta+ and Scribus (that I downloaded srcs and compiled myself) doesn't work well. Someone know what's going on? Any tip will be greatly appreciated. -- Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter MGR Informatica Ltda. Fones: 3347-0446 / 9259-2993 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I then tried setting the JAVA_PATH environment variable to the same directory (I don't remember if that's the right environment variable), and I got the same error. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Overholt <overholt@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Friday, June 17, 2005 7:08 am Subject: Re: FC4: Eclipse Fails to Save > In that case, something weird is going on. You're trying this with > anotherJVM (like, for example, Sun's)? You could try our packages > with another > JVM like so: > > eclipse -vm <path to "java" binary> > > Try a new workspace (and another JVM) like so: > > eclipse -data <path to new workspace> -vm <path to "java" binary> > > Andrew > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:15:19 -0700 From: Ryan Gammon <rgammon@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Fedora Core 4 users - having problems with RealPlayer? To: "player-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <player-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, player-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <42B30527.2010108@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hi all, I've noticed a number of users in the helix community forums recently having trouble installing the player in Fedora Core 4. The error is along the lines of: # ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory If you experience this error, it means you need to install the compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3 package, available from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/Fedora/RPM S/compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-47.fc4.i386.rpm You can also try out a nightly build of the development version of the player from: http://forms.helixcommunity.org/helix/builds/?category=realplay-current It links against a newer version of libstdc++ which should be fc4-compatible out of the box. -- Ryan Gammon rgammon@xxxxxxxx Developer for Helix Player https://player.helixcommunity.org ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:24:59 -0300 From: Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter <edson.richter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FC4: Eclipse Fails to Save To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <42B3076B.1030104@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Isn't JAVA_HOME env variable? Richter mlenz@xxxxxxxxxx escreveu: >I was trying it with the gcc-gcj VM, but I just downloaded the self >extracting jdk from java.sun.com. I extracted it into /opt and ran >eclipse with 'eclipse -vm /opt/jdk1.5.0_03/bin', and I got an error >saying that it could not find a virtual machine. I then tried setting >the JAVA_PATH environment variable to the same directory (I don't >remember if that's the right environment variable), and I got the same >error. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Andrew Overholt <overholt@xxxxxxxxxx> >Date: Friday, June 17, 2005 7:08 am >Subject: Re: FC4: Eclipse Fails to Save > > > >>In that case, something weird is going on. You're trying this with >>anotherJVM (like, for example, Sun's)? You could try our packages >>with another >>JVM like so: >> >>eclipse -vm <path to "java" binary> >> >>Try a new workspace (and another JVM) like so: >> >>eclipse -data <path to new workspace> -vm <path to "java" binary> >> >>Andrew >> >>-- >>fedora-list mailing list >>fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx >>To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> >> >> > > > -- Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter MGR Informatica Ltda. Fones: 3347-0446 / 9259-2993 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: edson.richter.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 411 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20050617/22f40cea/ed son.richter.vcf ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:25:20 -0400 From: kristina clair <kclair@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: ncftpd on fc3 malfunctioning? To: Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ad+lists@xxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <dff37527050617102573cacdae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 6/16/05, Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 11:35 -0700, kristina clair wrote: > > On 6/15/05, Alexander Dalloz <ad+lists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Am Mi, den 15.06.2005 schrieb kristina clair um 19:46: > > > > > > > Has anyone else had any problems with some ftp clients and ncftpd on > > > > fc3? We upgraded some of our servers from redhat 7.3 to fc3, and > > > > several popular windows ftp clients encounter connection errors when > > > > connecting to the fc3 servers, but not to the redhat 7.3 servers. My > > > > command-line ftp client works fine for both. > > > > > > > Kristina > > > > > > Any chance it is a firewalling / iptables problem - you checked that? > > > > > > http://www.ncftp.com/ncftpd/doc/faq/trouble.html > > > --> > > > Users are unable to login. How do I diagnose the problem? > > > > > > Alexander > > > > If it were a firewall problem, shouldn't ALL connections be refused? > > I'm always able to connect from the command line ftp on my personal > > computer. > > No - ftp uses two ports, 20 and 21, and it uses tcp and udp on one port > but not the other (I never can remember which is which, 20 or 21). So > unless your iptables rules allow 20/tcp, 20/udp, 21/tcp and 21/udp, you > might get a funky, incomplete connection that won't allow, say passive > connections. > > Aha! Thanks for all the help. So what exactly does ip_conntrack_ftp do? Kristina ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:27:29 +0100 From: Paul Howarth <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Stuck on run-level 3 :-( To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <42B30801.5070506@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Andoni wrote: > Same problem. /usr/X11R6/bin needs to be in your PATH. > > Try: > $ PATH="$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin" > $ startx &> x.output > > Also, what is the output of: > $ echo $PATH > > Paul. > > > ================ > Adding it to path worked and then it tried really hard to startx but then it > crashed out with an error that made me think it may not be using the correct > video driver so I set it back to the Intel Generic but I got the same error > message. This one: > > [root@localhost ~]# startx > > X Window System Version 6.8.2 > Release Date: 9 February 2005 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 > Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.9-1.906_ELsmp i686 [ELF] > Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-1.667 #1 Tue Nov > 2 14:41:25 EST 2004 i686 > Build Date: 24 March 2005 > Build Host: tweety.build.redhat.com > > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > > OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.9-1.667 (bhcompile@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > (gcc version 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3)) #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25 EST > 2004 > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jun 17 17:21:50 2005 > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > Symbol xf86CreateI2CBusRec from module > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i740_drv.o is unresolved! > Symbol xf86I2CBusInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i740_drv.o > is unresolved! I believe that symbol should be resolved from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libi2c.a Does that file exist? > Agent pid 2780 > > waiting for X server to shut down Could you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Are there any interesting-looking error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Paul. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:27:47 -0600 From: Philip Prindeville <philipp@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Issues with RHGB and broken xorg.conf files To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <42B30813.2000200@xxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I was wondering what would be involved in making the "graphical boot" procedure more robust.... I was working with a variety of dual-head monitors trying to get two screens working, and managed to make a typo in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. When the system froze up and needed to be rebooted, of course, I got the "Configuring kernel parameters:" message and then it hung. Apparently it tries to start up an X server, fails, and then... well, that's all she wrote. This doesn't seem very robust. Failing to start the X server shouldn't be a fatal error. At the very least, it should kick out an error message (like "Starting X server [ FAILED ]") and behave as if $GRAPHICAL=no... so that one can get into the system and repair the damage, then restart the X server. So, as a result, I routinely set GRAPHICAL=no on all new installs... and will continue to until the boot process has this Achilles Heel removed. Am I alone in my thinking? Doing a scan of various forums reveals that this is not an uncommon occurrence. -Philip ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:32:20 -0400 From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: yum updated grub.conf badly To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20050617173220.GA15351@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 11:00:04AM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > Previously, this had been caused by > trying to run an SMP kernel on a hyper-threaded cpu. > For some evil reason, the SMP kernel was the default. > Whoever made that decision should be shot. Rather than resorting to violence, try changing "DEFAULTKERNEL" in the file </etc/sysconfig/kernel>. > Editing grub.conf fixed that problem. > Until I ran yum. Yum's just doing what it's told. Or rather, it's installing RPMs, and they do what they're designed to do. The smp decision was made originally by anaconda, which saw that you have a system which (it thought) could benefit from using the SMP kernel. > I suppose I implicitly asked for a kernel update when running yum, > but even so, it shouldn't make the default something that doesn't work. > That is evil. It's beyond good and evil. How was yum or rpm or anything else supposed to know it didn't work on your particular system? > In any case, warning: yum can and will replace your grub.conf > with one that doesn't work. Sounds like the updated grub.conf actually worked *just fine*. -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> Current office temperature: 78 degrees Fahrenheit. ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:33:45 -0400 From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Any apt repos yet? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20050617173345.GB15351@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 12:45:59PM -0400, Pete Toscano wrote: > > Install yum-utils (from Extras) and look at the 'yumdownloader' program. > I guess this still depends on the repo maintainers providing SRPM repos, > eh? If my small sample of three extras packages is true, it doesn't > look like you can d/l any Extras SRPMs, but you can d/l Core SRPMs. Right. Hmmm; that should get fixed. -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> Current office temperature: 78 degrees Fahrenheit. ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:35:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Saltzman <mjs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: NetworkManager, Wireless and Fedora FC4 To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: bmoss@xxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <Pine.SOC.4.61.0506171323120.7797@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, D S wrote: > On 6/17/05, Ray Hooker <ray.hooker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> One of the biggest pains with the Redhat line is the weak support for >> wireless (even a very old version of Knoppix automatically detects and >> sets up cards). It appears that there is a new app to fix it: >> >> http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager It's been around since FC2 or 3, but it's just starting to get robust enough for general use. >> >> I also see it referenced in Clemson's HOWTO: >> >> http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/nm.shtml >> >> I was excited. I installed FC4 from scratch. I noticed that >> NetworkManager was installed but NetworkManager and NetworkManager >> Dispatcher were not running. Also noticed that FC4 seems to detect my >> Aironet PCI in my Thinkpad T42P. Iwconfig shows it. It even detected >> the SSID of my Linksys which temporarily had broadcast set to on. The >> problem is that it does not have an address and there is no cool icon >> on the task bar in GNOME. I did notice in KDE that there is a applet >> for Wireless network monitor. >> >> **** I WANT TO DO THIS OUT OF BOX and not with hacks as this new tool >> is supposed to just "work". The problem is that it's not always the tool you want. For a fixed, wired workstation, or especially a server, or a machine with multiple active interfaces, it's just not appropriate. >> >> So I started the two services (NetworkManager and NetworkManager >> Dispatcher). I still see no applet on the task bar nor is it listed >> in the possible applets. NetworkManager-Gnome as well as >> NetworkManager appears to already be installed. I even did a YUM >> update (yum install...) just to make sure I had the latest and >> rebooted. Still no taskbar icon. The Clemson help page mentions >> nm-applet, but I can't seem to find the file, nor am I able to find >> "Startup Programs tab in the gnome-session-properties application" in >> the FC4 GNOME menus. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. Again I want to make so that I use as >> much built in as possible and avoid other packages and hacks unless >> needed to support a particular card (e.g, Cisco or Intel Wireless such >> as IPW2200).. I did look and see that the Cisco ACU appears to be old >> and may not apply to this particular PCI card. I am not sure the >> model as even WindowsXP does not indicate anything more than Aironet >> PCI. >> >> Ray > Run NetworkManagerInfo Actually, if this is the tool you want to use permanently, do the following (worked for me on FC3): Set up to let NM control your network at boot (as root) (1) # /sbin/chkconfig network off (2) # /sbin/chkconfig NetworkManager on Start NM to control your network now (as root) (3) # /sbin/service network stop (4) # /sbin/service NetworkManager start Start the client (as yourself) (5) $ NetworkManagerInfo (This should start the scanner icon on the toolber). (6) Follow the clemson.edu instructions for attaching yourself to the network. (7) Log out and select "save current setup". (8) Log back in. The NM icon should start up. Yes, I think there should be a menu item to start NetworkManagerInfo. Maybe next release... HTH. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs ------------------------------ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 16, Issue 179 ********************************************
