One of the biggest pains with the Redhat line is the weak support for wireless (even a very old version of Knoppix automatically detects and sets up cards). It appears that there is a new app to fix it: http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager I also see it referenced in Clemson's HOWTO: http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/nm.shtml I was excited. I installed FC4 from scratch. I noticed that NetworkManager was installed but NetworkManager and NetworkManager Dispatcher were not running. Also noticed that FC4 seems to detect my Aironet PCI in my Thinkpad T42P. Iwconfig shows it. It even detected the SSID of my Linksys which temporarily had broadcast set to on. The problem is that it does not have an address and there is no cool icon on the task bar in GNOME. I did notice in KDE that there is a applet for Wireless network monitor. **** I WANT TO DO THIS OUT OF BOX and not with hacks as this new tool is supposed to just "work". So I started the two services (NetworkManager and NetworkManager Dispatcher). I still see no applet on the task bar nor is it listed in the possible applets. NetworkManager-Gnome as well as NetworkManager appears to already be installed. I even did a YUM update (yum install...) just to make sure I had the latest and rebooted. Still no taskbar icon. The Clemson help page mentions nm-applet, but I can't seem to find the file, nor am I able to find "Startup Programs tab in the gnome-session-properties application" in the FC4 GNOME menus. Any help would be appreciated. Again I want to make so that I use as much built in as possible and avoid other packages and hacks unless needed to support a particular card (e.g, Cisco or Intel Wireless such as IPW2200).. I did look and see that the Cisco ACU appears to be old and may not apply to this particular PCI card. I am not sure the model as even WindowsXP does not indicate anything more than Aironet PCI. Ray
