If wanting to turn this on with FC4, like did with the test releases, is it enough to turn the two gdm early-login services on and add the early-login paramater to the kernel in place of rhgb? Or do you also have to change/add the chkconfig numbers on it/some other package to enable it? Just turning them on and replacing the kernel paramater didn't seem to be enough. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Everything is always harder, before it's easy!