which is what i've been driving at... which i'm also believing is a reasonably good sized market... particularly if you can get homeland security to buy into the fact that terrorists are making $$$ with phishing/pharming scams!! you see matt, i've never looked at this as a purely tech issue with the underlying protocols... but you need some way for the avg user to really be able to tell.. that the site he's on, is the one he should be on.. in a similar vein.. you need to be able to do the same thing from the server side as well... -bruce -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Matthew Miller Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:35 AM To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: Re: tcp/routing question... On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:27:08AM -0700, bruce wrote: > however, the issue with phishing has demonstrated that just having ssl is > not enough.. so how is ipsec going to solve something differently than an > ssl implementation.. SSL solves it adequately as far as I'm concerned. IPsec could make it more ubiquitous. If you're asking "how can we keep people from being gullible", then I'm afraid there really isn't a foolproof solution -- you know what they say about the ingenuity of fools. -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> Current office temperature: 80 degrees Fahrenheit. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list