actually... i was envisioning a series of systems/apps that one coudl get/download/run, and be able to have portions, or a pretty much complete development environment up/running relatively quickly... the elegance/beauty of this approach is that you could pretty much guarantee that the environment would be stable, would run, would be supported, and that the machines/apps would communicate with each other in a consistent manner... this could also allow users to get the various components of the setup on a piece meal basis if they wanted. thoughts/comments... -bruce -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Les Mikesell Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 2:36 PM To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: Re: OT: What's the deal with Ubuntu? On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 15:55, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 01:53:51PM -0700, bruce wrote: > > where can you go to get a complete/downloadable system.. (not a bunch of > > apps) that you can setup for a webserver, or for an ldap server.. that's > > essentially ready to go.. i envision something that you install, reboot, and > > it's ready to run... not just that the underlying apps are installed... > > Oh, I see. You want a systems integrator. I bet quite a few people on this > list do that. Hey, pay me enough and *I* will. :) No, he wants an integrated system. That could easily be a commodity item. Or free... Only the first one takes any work. > > as you know, there's often more that has to be done to get an app to > > run/be useful than just installing... > > The problem is that by definition, every case has different needs. > Otherwise, it *would* be a matter of just installing. No, there are a dozen or so configurations that would cover a lot of needs. How many ways does Apple offer Mac configurations and how many Mac users hire a systems integrator to get some work done or before being able to listen to some music? -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list