On 5/20/05, Jerry Gaiser <jerryg@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Friday 20 May 2005 13:02, THUFIR HAWAT wrote: > > On 5/20/05, Jerry Gaiser <jerryg@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > ... > > > > > Broadband penetration in the US and especially the Western US is > *much* > > > smaller than those of you in the big cities imagine. > > > > ... > > > > I don't like the way this creates a quasi-"internet" class structure. > > globally, bandwith is, I believe, a scarce resource. however, if yum > > (or foo, whatever) used compressed binaries wouldn't it be, at worst, > > a wash? provided you're doing the download and install yourself. > > > > > > -Thufir > > Ah yes.. But there's the rub. The files are already compressed, though > probably not optimally. > > At 21.6K (my best connection speed), I can download about 10M/hour - if I my > ISP doesn't disconnect me. A 100M-200M RPM of a kernel upgrade will take > 10-20hours to download and I can be guaranteed to be disconnected in this > amount of time. Unless the upgrade apps add a provision for 'restart' they're > worthless to me - and for a *lot* of other rural internet users. > > Therefore I use an download app that's smart enough to restart from where I > was when my connection was dropped and just download the three or four CDs > needed for the complete system. Yes, it may take a week or more at my speeds, > but I have the system immediately available, online or off, and manually > upgrade only what *I* need. > > I'd be extremely happy to see a way for us dialup users to use a Yum like app, > but I'm not holding my breath. > > -- > Jerry Gaiser in North Plains, Oregon USA (Zone8a) - 45.6933N 123.0418W > > heh, yeh, in a way this has more to do with packet management (ie yum) than fedora. -Thufir
