Making use of Fedora's shell is becoming absolutely useless!! Alot of manpages for Extra pacakges are not even bundled.. and making use of apropos is becoming more and more powerless. Enforce this policy, on Debian these policies are very well defined and all my packages show up switfly with apropos. Now what's so hard about including manpages and whatis support with the packages? If i want to know which program I have for html editing for eg, bluefish would not show up under apropos nor whatis.-- There are also core system utilities that are not even bundled with manpages-- maybe I'll start helping out making doc pages on this.. but in the meantime I should note-- This is an area where Fedora is dying and users alike myself who work in the shell alot would like to see the manpages still packaged in all packages like it does in debian.. otherwise it seems that Fedora would mean only for small-user systems. No offense.. I'm just saying this to see why this seems to be a trend.. I don't believe manpages are dying out anytime soon and it would be nice to know what packageX is and what it does-- immediately with the whatis and apropos commands... jagginess ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca