T. Horsnell wrote: > What's the situation with 'raw' and FC3? > I want to get raw access to disks for test > purposes but 'man raw' and 'whereis raw' > show nothing. Same as for the rest of Linux: you can access a raw partition as /dev/hdXY or /dev/sdXY (depending on technology), where X is a letter and Y a number. So the first partition of your first IDE disk is /dev/hda1. To refer to the whole disk, use /dev/hdX or /dev/sdX. Please note: get this wrong and you could delete your whole system. Be careful. Use backups or a separate test system. Now the real question: what exactly are you trying to do, and why? If you just want to see how fast your hard disk goes, try hdparm -t /dev/hda (or whatever). If you want to use raw copying, use dd (and be careful). Have I mentioned that you need to be careful? James. -- E-mail address: james | Whenever [Richard I] returned to England he always @westexe.demon.co.uk | set out again immediately for the Mediterranean and | was therefore known as Richard Gare de Lyon. | -- '1066 and All That'