Antonio Olivares escreveu:
--- Toralf Lund <toralf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Marcel Janssen wrote:
On Saturday 07 May 2005 11:12, Toralf Lund wrote:
This has probably been discussed before, but is
anyone actually using
totem to play DVDs these days? I've tried variants
from various distros
and installed every gstreamer plugin I can think
of, but it still won't
work. Originally, it wouldn't recognise DVDs at
all, of course, now it
will either crash or give messages like
Others in list have reported sucess with Totem. You
just need certain packages and it will work. If I
remember correctly something like gstreamer???? and
other plugins will make it work.
Do you mean you installed binary packages from
other distros ? If so -> bad
idea to begin with. Crashes will be very likely.
Bad choice of words, there. I meant "various
distros" as in "Fedora Core
and different 3rd-party distributions of packages
built specifically for
Fedora".
I've tried totem, but I don't understand the UI.
Play disc will not play the
disc, so to my opinion it fails it's function ;-)
Calling that an UI problem is definitely stretching
things. When the
function associated with an UI item doesn't work,
I'd say that the
function is faulty, not the UI. But perhaps your
remarks wasn't meant
too seriously...
Anyhow, Totem or any other media player installed
with Fedora Core
certainly won't play DVDs out-of-the box.
Apparently, Fedora/Red Hat
dare not distribute the somewhat controversial code
needed to do the job
along with the OS...
Disregard this part. Fedora will go with open
standards and the controversial code. Go and snatch
the needed downloads to get the applications and
codecs that you want for it to play. At one point I
disregarded Fedora for this reason, but the one
missing out on a great OS was me. I tried installing
the missing parts and now it works great for me.
Also, many options that xine-ui has I miss in
totem.
Those seem to be options I don't need and don't
want, and they tend to
get in my way when I try to find what I do need...
xine-ui may not be the
nicest UI, but it can do the job which is most
important I think.
Of course... But when I've tried it, I've been left
with the feeling
that it didn't get the work done because I had to
struggle too much with
the GUI - not only because I found it hard to
understand, but also
because it just wouldn't work some of the time - and
the whole
application seemed somewhat unstable.
And, no, I don't think I want to use xine or
mplayer or whatever
instead. I think they all have pretty lousy UIs,
and mplayer in
particular has also proven to be rather
unreliable.
About the UI you can do something. There are many
frontends to xine like
kaffeine or gxine.
Yes. Or I may even use Totem with Xine as a
backend...
Suggest using kaffeine
Maybe I'll give it a try...
Worked straight away to play DVD for me and has all
the necessary functions for me to support
multimedia.
I know one
application that generally just works most of the
time, though: It's
Ogle (http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~dvd/) Some of
its features are
incomplete, however, and it seems like there
hasn't been a lot of
development lately, and I've come across one DVD
it won't play, so I
thought I might try something else...
Another application is vlc
(http://www.videolan.org/vlc)
I've tried that one, and yes, while it also has some
dialogs and menu
items that are rather cryptic, the UI is not that
bad. However, I'm
struggling a bit to get it to play the actual film
or display the root
menu; it seems inclined to start showing me some of
the "special
features" or whatever whenever I open a disk.
If you install any of these, please use yum or apt
so that at least you're
sure that your not working with broken packages. It
really saves you a lot of
hassle in the end.
Yes.
Meanwhile, I'm still inclined to conclude that Ogle
is still the player
closest to Just Working, but unfortunately, it seems
like there are too
few developers involved in the project. Maybe I'll
start a flame war by
saying this, but I generally think that it would be
a lot more
productive if the people behind some of the video
players would stop
developing their own software, and start
contributing to other
applications instead. There has probably been far
too much duplicate
work in this area.
- Toralf
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Sorry to add to tbe discussion, but I have a few
remarks to add, I have both xine, and MPlayer on my
pcs and I don't have any problems. Most Dvd's play
without a hiccup.
There are the frontends for xine
http://xinehq.de/index.php/download
I can't complain about the frontend for xine the
xine-ui might not be the best but it works!
To install xine I obtain the rpms from
http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/.
I follow almost all the instructions there. you can
get RealPlayer and install the w32codecs to play
windows media/quicktime and other formats.
As for MPlayer, you can install kplayer which is a
nice frontend for MPlayer.
I have no complains as both players work for me and as
far as ogle is concerned, it never worked for me. I
tried it in Mandrake, and Fedora Core 2 and 3 and it
did not work. They say it is real good, but it never
worked for me. So I can't rate it.
Regards,
Antonio
I can play non-encrypted DVD's with no problem.
IMO, Totem is great!
Cheers,
Vinicius.
