On Saturday 07 May 2005 18:15, Toralf Lund wrote: > Meanwhile, I'm still inclined to conclude that Ogle is still the player > closest to Just Working, but unfortunately, it seems like there are too > few developers involved in the project. Maybe I'll start a flame war by > saying this, but I generally think that it would be a lot more > productive if the people behind some of the video players would stop > developing their own software, and start contributing to other > applications instead. There has probably been far too much duplicate > work in this area. I can understand why you feel like this. There is however a different goal for each developer and each project. Most players don't only focus on DVD, but also other formats, so it takes up a lot of time for the developers to also support the other things. I use xine only for my home cinema and don't use the UI, but control everything by remote control. This is the reason why I never really cared much about the UI, but more about functionality. On my desktop PC I use kaffeine and xine-ui both and must say that kaffeine suits the desktop better than xine-ui. Regards, Marcel