Jacob, Did I read that RHES4 will update to gcc-3.4.3-22? That would solve my delima if they were to add that to their update system. Thanks, Dalene Root -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:30 AM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 15, Issue 51 Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: ATI driver compilation problem (Robin Laing) 2. Re: Fedora Core brevity vs server upgrades (Charles E Taylor IV) 3. gcc for fedora (Root, Dalene Joy) 4. Re: ATI driver compilation problem (Marcel Janssen) 5. RE: gcc for fedora (bruce) 6. Re: gcc for fedora (Jakub Jelinek) 7. Re: gcc for fedora (Rahul Sundaram) 8. Re: gcc for fedora (Matthew Miller) 9. writing img files on floppies (Gentian Hila) 10. Re: writing img files on floppies (Paul Howarth) 11. Re: slmodemd on FC3? (Matthew Saltzman) 12. Re: writing img files on floppies (Matthew Miller) 13. Package kdebase needs samba-common = 3.0.11 (Revised) (Steve Brown) 14. Re: writing img files on floppies (Paul Howarth) 15. Re: slmodemd on FC3? (Globe Trotter) 16. Re: writing img files on floppies (Matthew Miller) 17. Re: slmodemd on FC3? (Mart?n Marqu?s) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 08:28:14 -0600 From: Robin Laing <Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: ATI driver compilation problem To: korgull@xxxxxxx, For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <427A2D7E.9070306@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Marcel Janssen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having a hard time getting the ATI driver to compile on a freshly > installed FC3 box. > I tried the ATI driver as supplied by ATI and the one supplied by > livna repository, both I can't get to work. > I'm using the latest kernel from ATrpms, but that doesn't seem to > matter much (also tried other kernels). > > The log below shows the module compile of the ATI supplied drivers. > > Help very much appreciated ! > > Regards, > Marcel Janssen My solution with an ATI 9600 was to get an nVidia card. Problem solved. I spent two weeks fighting with ATI drivers and gave up the fight. Less than 30 minutes to get the nVidia card to work. Over mixing of repositories may also cause problems with getting things to work. -- Robin Laing ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:34:46 -0400 From: Charles E Taylor IV <tomalek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Fedora Core brevity vs server upgrades To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20050505103446.0470c13f.tomalek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 May 2005 17:01:48 -0400 (EDT) "William Hooper" <whooperhsd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Answered previously in this thread. > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-May/msg00550.html Thanks. Missed that post in the flood. I can't find it in bugzilla (which doesn't mean it's not there :) ), but has anyone suggested as an RFE that the yum mirror list should be configured correctly when yum is installed in the first place? Could an install script be devised that would, say, look at the user's time zone and automattically set the .repo files to point to the correct mirrors? This would save people from bugs like 152395, at least. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- * Charles Taylor <tomalek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> * Chemistry instructor / Mad scientist / Linux enthusiast! -------------------------------------------------------------------- * Web: http://home.mindspring.com/~charletiv/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:35:58 -0600 From: "Root, Dalene Joy" <dalene.root@xxxxxx> Subject: gcc for fedora To: <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <4C69D6E11B774547BA152B6CA31D64E0023F85A9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Matt, Reference Message #10 Forgive me if I sound naive. I am not a programmer. The reason that we wanted to use gcc 3.4.3-9 on Fedora is because some of our developers are using Fedora Core 3 and some have purchased Redhat ES4. RHES4 has gcc-3.4.3-9 while Fedora 3 has 3.4.3-22. There seems to be an incompatibility between the two versions. Here is an excerpt of the original complaint. We have a serious problem with incompatible versions gcc. It turns out that the versions of gcc that get installed with Fedora Core 2, Fedora Core 3 and RedHat ES4 are different. There are instances where compile errors that do not get produced with one version will be produced on another. In particular this becomes evident in forward namespace, forward class and friend class declarations. We decided we would rather have 3.4.3-9 because RHES4 is supported and my lead feels that would be more stable solution. Thanks, Dalene Root -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20050505/4be870bb/attachment.htm ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:40:46 +0200 From: Marcel Janssen <korgull@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: ATI driver compilation problem To: Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200505051640.47143.korgull@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Thursday 05 May 2005 16:28, Robin Laing wrote: > My solution with an ATI 9600 was to get an nVidia card. Problem > solved. I spent two weeks fighting with ATI drivers and gave up the > fight. Less than 30 minutes to get the nVidia card to work. Finally got the Pundit-R working with TV-out ! Anyway, I can't really recommend this setup because it took a very long time to make things happen. The drivers really are not up to date for FC3 and need lots of patching. Getting the correct Modeline also was a hassle, but finally it worked. Regards, Marcel ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 07:47:37 -0700 From: "bruce" <bedouglas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: gcc for fedora To: "'For users of Fedora Core releases'" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <03a201c55181$633a66d0$0301a8c0@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" darlene... i imagine that it should be easy enough to get the source rpms for the rhel gcc that you're using, and have/allow your engineers to rebuild it on FC3, using the same compilation/build options.. this should give you a compile/build environment close to what rhel has. it may not be exact, given the FC3 will still have potential difference that may result in you seeing different errs/msgs... welcome to the world os distributed software development!!! but this can be a good thing. it gives you/forces you to build consistent code across varying systems. -bruce -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Root, Dalene Joy Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:36 AM To: mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: gcc for fedora Hi Matt, Reference Message #10 Forgive me if I sound naive. I am not a programmer. The reason that we wanted to use gcc 3.4.3-9 on Fedora is because some of our developers are using Fedora Core 3 and some have purchased Redhat ES4. RHES4 has gcc-3.4.3-9 while Fedora 3 has 3.4.3-22. There seems to be an incompatibility between the two versions. Here is an excerpt of the original complaint. We have a serious problem with incompatible versions gcc. It turns out that the versions of gcc that get installed with Fedora Core 2, Fedora Core 3 and RedHat ES4 are different. There are instances where compile errors that do not get produced with one version will be produced on another. In particular this becomes evident in forward namespace, forward class and friend class declarations. We decided we would rather have 3.4.3-9 because RHES4 is supported and my lead feels that would be more stable solution. Thanks, Dalene Root -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2812 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20050505/82f67846/winmail.bin ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:46:27 -0400 From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: gcc for fedora To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20050505144627.GM17420@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 08:35:58AM -0600, Root, Dalene Joy wrote: > Forgive me if I sound naive. I am not a programmer. The reason that we > wanted to use gcc 3.4.3-9 on Fedora is because some of our developers > are using Fedora Core 3 and some have purchased Redhat ES4. RHES4 has > gcc-3.4.3-9 while Fedora 3 has 3.4.3-22. There seems to be an > incompatibility between the two versions. Here is an excerpt of the > original complaint. > We have a serious problem with incompatible versions gcc. GCC 3.4.x is not meant to be incompatible, of course there can be bugs in one or both of the compilers, but GCC 3.4.x is now in bugfixing mode, so generally higher releases should have more bugs fixed. If you see a regression from gcc-3.4.3-n to gcc-3.4.3-m where n < m, please report it to us. RHEL4 U1 is going to include gcc-3.4.3-22, while FC3 updates currently include gcc-3.4.3-22.fc3. Almost no difference. Jakub ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:22:05 +0530 From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: gcc for fedora To: bedouglas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <427A3315.6040907@xxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hi >but this can be a good thing. it gives you/forces you to build consistent >code across varying systems. > >-bruce > If the Fedora Core 3 GCC upgrade fixed some errors in the previous version, then moving back to an older version is a regression. regards Rahul ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:59:17 -0400 From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: gcc for fedora To: "Root, Dalene Joy" <dalene.root@xxxxxx> Cc: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20050505145917.GB16162@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 08:35:58AM -0600, Root, Dalene Joy wrote: > Forgive me if I sound naive. I am not a programmer. The reason that we > wanted to use gcc 3.4.3-9 on Fedora is because some of our developers > are using Fedora Core 3 and some have purchased Redhat ES4. RHES4 has > gcc-3.4.3-9 while Fedora 3 has 3.4.3-22. There seems to be an > incompatibility between the two versions. Here is an excerpt of the > original complaint. > We have a serious problem with incompatible versions gcc. > It turns out that the versions of gcc that get installed with Fedora > Core 2, Fedora Core 3 and RedHat ES4 are different. > There are instances where compile errors that do not get produced with > one version will be produced on another. > In particular this becomes evident in forward namespace, forward class > and friend class declarations. Are you sure that the problems aren't just with FC2's gcc-3.3.x vs FC3 and RHEL4's 3.4.x? Note that Fedora Core 3 started with gcc-3.4.2-6.fc3, but was updated to the current bugfix level. I suggest reading the changelog for the latest gcc package for FC3 -- the differences between the RHEL4 release and the latest FC3 version appears to be a large number of bugfixes. -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> Current office temperature: 75 degrees Fahrenheit. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:00:29 -0400 From: Gentian Hila <genti.tech@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: writing img files on floppies To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <a641d850050505080053a946b8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi I have some boot files with img extension that need to be written on floppies. How can I do that from Fedora? Thank you ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:02:18 +0100 From: Paul Howarth <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: writing img files on floppies To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <427A357A.6050608@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Gentian Hila wrote: > Hi > > I have some boot files with img extension that need to be written on floppies. > > How can I do that from Fedora? # dd if=yourfile.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k Paul. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:03:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Saltzman <mjs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: slmodemd on FC3? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <Pine.SOC.4.61.0505051056570.4287@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thu, 5 May 2005, Globe Trotter wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks a bundle! Just to make sure, I am on the right track: > > - >>> Now what? How do I figure out this "device name"? > > %lsmod > Module Size Used by > [...] > snd_intel8x0m 18565 0 > snd_intel8x0 34049 0 > snd_ac97_codec 71097 2 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0 > snd_pcm_oss 51953 0 > snd_mixer_oss 18241 1 snd_pcm_oss > snd_pcm 99657 4 > snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss > snd_timer 33093 1 snd_pcm > snd 56741 7 > snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer > [...] OK So the module is there. > > >> You can check that the module is loaded with "lsmod". >> >> Then you can start the modem daemon with "slmodemd --alsa". I do this >> from the slmodemd-2.9.10/modem/ directory with "./slmodemd --alsa" when I >> want the modem, but you can install the daemon in a system binary >> directory like /usr/local/sbin/ and start it in /etc/rc.local if you want. >> >> When the daemon starts, it reports: >> >> # ./slmodemd --alsa >> SmartLink Soft Modem: version 2.9.10 Feb 24 2005 17:54:46 >> symbolic link `/dev/ttySL0' -> `/dev/pts/4' created. >> modem `modem:1' created. TTY is `/dev/pts/4' >> Use `/dev/ttySL0' as modem device, Ctrl+C for termination. >> > > and I get: > > ./slmodemd --alsa > SmartLink Soft Modem: version 2.9.9 May 4 2005 21:50:58 > symbolic link `/dev/ttySL0' -> `/dev/pts/4' created. > modem `hw:1' created. TTY is `/dev/pts/4' > Use `/dev/ttySL0' as modem device, Ctrl+C for termination. So you are good to go. The modem is /dev/ttySL0. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > With regard to modem tools, what do you recommend? Or rather what do you use? To check modem functionality, minicom. To actually dial up an ISP, system-config-network, and the GNOME modem lights applet. These control connections using wvdial. > > Many thanks and best wishes! > > > > > Yahoo! Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html > > > -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:17:30 -0400 From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: writing img files on floppies To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20050505151730.GA17359@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 04:02:18PM +0100, Paul Howarth wrote: > >I have some boot files with img extension that need to be written on > >floppies. > >How can I do that from Fedora? > # dd if=yourfile.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k Any particular reason for 18k? (Just curious -- clearly having something bigger than the default is good.) -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> Current office temperature: 75 degrees Fahrenheit. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 11:15:30 -0400 From: Steve Brown <sbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Package kdebase needs samba-common = 3.0.11 (Revised) To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <427A3892.8020303@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed This is my second attempt (with revisions) at getting help with this problem. When I run 'yum update', after several minutes of attempting to resolve dependencies, yum gives me the following error message: Package kdebase needs samba-common = 3.0.11, this is not available. No updates take place. 'rpm -qi samba-common' reported that I have version 3.0.11. I then ran 'yum update samba-common' and now I have version 3.0.14 and I still get the error message. Reverting to version 3.0.11 does not seem to be an option because of the unavailability of the old package, dependencies and so on. I commented out the kde-redhat.org repository and re-ran 'yum update' and it ran fine, updating a handful of programs. Then I uncommented the kde-redhat.org repository lines and ran yum again and got the same message. Searching list archives and google turned up nothing. I had the same problem on my notebook. Other information: kernel: 2.6.10-1.771_FC2 (yes, FC2) KDE: 3.4.0 It seems to me that this might be something that the packager of the KDE RPMs should address -- maybe "equals 3.0.11" should be "greater than or equals 3.0.11". I could find no way to contact anyone at kde-redhat.org, however. Maybe if I wait until the next KDE package, this will go away. For now, I changed yum.conf to ignore kde* packages. 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If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:19:52 +0100 From: Paul Howarth <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: writing img files on floppies To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <427A3998.6060905@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 04:02:18PM +0100, Paul Howarth wrote: > >>>I have some boot files with img extension that need to be written on >>>floppies. >>>How can I do that from Fedora? >> >># dd if=yourfile.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k > > > Any particular reason for 18k? (Just curious -- clearly having something > bigger than the default is good.) It's one track on a 1.44M floppy. Paul. ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:21:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Globe Trotter <itsme_410@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: slmodemd on FC3? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20050505152113.87543.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > OK So the module is there. > > > > > > >> You can check that the module is loaded with "lsmod". > >> > >> Then you can start the modem daemon with "slmodemd --alsa". I do this > >> from the slmodemd-2.9.10/modem/ directory with "./slmodemd --alsa" when I > >> want the modem, but you can install the daemon in a system binary > >> directory like /usr/local/sbin/ and start it in /etc/rc.local if you want. > >> > >> When the daemon starts, it reports: > >> > >> # ./slmodemd --alsa > >> SmartLink Soft Modem: version 2.9.10 Feb 24 2005 17:54:46 > >> symbolic link `/dev/ttySL0' -> `/dev/pts/4' created. > >> modem `modem:1' created. TTY is `/dev/pts/4' > >> Use `/dev/ttySL0' as modem device, Ctrl+C for termination. > >> > > > > and I get: > > > > ./slmodemd --alsa > > SmartLink Soft Modem: version 2.9.9 May 4 2005 21:50:58 > > symbolic link `/dev/ttySL0' -> `/dev/pts/4' created. > > modem `hw:1' created. TTY is `/dev/pts/4' > > Use `/dev/ttySL0' as modem device, Ctrl+C for termination. > > So you are good to go. The modem is /dev/ttySL0. > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > With regard to modem tools, what do you recommend? Or rather what do you > use? > > To check modem functionality, minicom. To actually dial up an ISP, > system-config-network, and the GNOME modem lights applet. These control > connections using wvdial. Thanks again! But system-config-network does not have an entry for Dial-up. Does that mean the hardware is not being detected? Best wishes! __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:27:40 -0400 From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: writing img files on floppies To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20050505152740.GA18094@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 04:19:52PM +0100, Paul Howarth wrote: > >># dd if=yourfile.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k > >Any particular reason for 18k? (Just curious -- clearly having something > >bigger than the default is good.) > It's one track on a 1.44M floppy. Makes sense. What about bs=1440k? -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> Current office temperature: 76 degrees Fahrenheit. ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:23:52 -0300 From: Mart?n Marqu?s <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: slmodemd on FC3? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200505051223.52728.martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" El Jue 05 May 2005 12:21, Globe Trotter escribió: > > > OK So the module is there. > > > > > > > > > > > ./slmodemd --alsa > > > SmartLink Soft Modem: version 2.9.9 May 4 2005 21:50:58 > > > symbolic link `/dev/ttySL0' -> `/dev/pts/4' created. > > > modem `hw:1' created. TTY is `/dev/pts/4' > > > Use `/dev/ttySL0' as modem device, Ctrl+C for termination. > > > > So you are good to go. The modem is /dev/ttySL0. > > > > > With regard to modem tools, what do you recommend? Or rather what do you > > use? > > > > To check modem functionality, minicom. To actually dial up an ISP, > > system-config-network, and the GNOME modem lights applet. These control > > connections using wvdial. > > Thanks again! But system-config-network does not have an entry for Dial-up. > Does that mean the hardware is not being detected? Try kppp, and in the modem configuration, put /dev/ttySL0. I don't know what GNOME uses, but it should be similar. -- 12:22:19 up 33 days, 20:51, 1 user, load average: 0.89, 0.97, 0.68 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Martín Marqués | select 'mmarques' || '@' || 'unl.edu.ar' Centro de Telematica | DBA, Programador, Administrador Universidad Nacional del Litoral ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 15, Issue 51 *******************************************