On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 20:58 +0100, Robert Slade wrote: > The use of the rfc-ignorant.org blocking list is a very strange thing to > do. For example it listed the co.uk TLD because UK law (not just a > request for comments etc) made it illegal to publish names and addresses > without permission. The problem is that as far as I know, Nominet does not provide a means of *giving* permission to publish this information and become RFC- compliant. For this reason, despite being a UK citizen, I have chosen to use a .org domain for my personal use rather a .uk domain. > In other words rfc-ignorant considered that Law does > not apply, Your information is out of date. The RFC upon which rfc-ignorant's whois zone was based (RFC 954) was superseded by RFC 1032, which does not require the publication of accurate contact details for a domain. So "uk" is no longer listed. See: http://lists.megacity.org/pipermail/rfci- discuss/2004-October/003094.html > and you could undertake illegal activity such as spamming > (which is illegal in the UK and most of Europe) provided you complied > with the rfc. rfc-ignorant.org is about following the interoperability rules of the Internet. It is nothing to do with spamming. > In addition, most major Euopean ISPs do not have an > abuse@domain either but prefer to use web based systems Thus making victims of abuse by their customers jump through hoops to report the problem. > so the Op will not accept mail from them. Understandable. I personally find that I'd have to whitelist too many domains to use the "abuse" zone, which is regrettable. However, I do use the "postmaster" zone as the whitelist I need for that is a bit more manageable. It would of course be better if these ISPs acted more responsibly and had working postmaster/abuse addresses. Paul. -- Paul Howarth <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx>