On Apr 5, 2005 1:09 PM, Didier Casse <elprodigio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Apr 5, 2005 10:48 AM, Jonathan Berry <berryja@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2005 9:12 PM, Didier Casse <elprodigio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2005 5:44 AM, Jonathan Berry <berryja@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > > (for reference this is the original thread with some more info > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-April/msg00291.html) > > > > > > > > Didier, > > > > > > > > Can you give us a quick overview of what you did to install Fedora on > > > > this laptop? Including how the laptop was repartitioned (I remember > > > > your friend did the partitioning, can you ask him/her?). This might > > > > help us figure out what has happened to Windows. > > > > > > > > > > Ok my friend said he partitioned his HDD as C: D: E: F:. And he wanted > > > to give the D; to Linux. I told him previously that Linux is different > > > from WinXP and doesn' t require D: (different file systems!) or > > > whatever and that some free space would do. > > > > > > So he told me he used partition magic and wiped out D: then relabelled: > > > > > > E->D > > > F->E > > > > Hmm, out of curiosity, did he ever boot Windows after all of this? > > I'm trying to figure out whether Fedora did something bad or if > > perhaps it happened with the re-partitioning. > > Well yeah Windows could still boot! > > > > > > And I installed linux of the free space (which I partitioned using > > > disk druid) which used to be the old D! > > > > > > > One of the better courses of action might be to get the NTFS kernel > > > > module (see http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/) and mount all the > > > > Windows partitions to see what you can find. Does it look like > > > > Windows is actually installed to hda1 like one would expect? That is, > > > > can you find the WINDOWS or WINNT directory and ntldr file? What is > > > > on hda11 (the second NTFS parition on the drive)? Could Windows > > > > (somehow) actually be there instead? > > > > > > > > > > Already installed those NTFS stuff, I can see the disk drives D: and > > > E: but when it comes to C:, it can' t mount it! > > > > Well, that's not good. What kind of error does it give you? Sounds > > like the partition has been corrupted some way. > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, > or too many mounted file systems > > > > > > I thought Win might be somewhere else so I tried to point GRUB to the > > > other location but w/o any success. So I realized it' s still in > > > /dev/hda1 but not accessible. > > > > More bad news. > > > > > > About the Windows CD not booting. Is the CD for Windows XP SP1? and > > > > is the installed version SP2? If so, this might be the problem. I've > > > > heard that there are problems with SP1 CDs after upgrading to SP2, but > > > > I don't know how these problems manifest themselves. Perhaps you > > > > could try to get MS to send you an SP2 disk if nothing else works. > > > > Can you check the CDs in another computer? Preferably one that still > > > > has SP1, or if that isn't an option, then one without Windows at all. > > > > > > > > > > We' re in a research center. So we can get MS CDs easily especially > > > because the National University of Singapore invests big bucks into > > > Microsoft. And they buy all sorts of things with Microsoft. Well they > > > believe that the problems which can be solved with money are not > > > really problems. But hey we'll take that part offline. ;-) > > > > > > So we got all kinds of CDs and the latest SPs. All of them work on > > > another PC but none of them works on the laptop. > > > > Very strange. What kind of laptop? Was Windows installed at the > > factory, or did your friend install it? That is, has it ever worked > > to your knowledge? > > My friend installed it after he bought a new hdd fir his laptop. It > was working vefore the FC installation. > > Laptop is a Samsung X10. German keyboard type. He bought it in Germany. > > > Wait, did you use LVM to install Linux? If so, that could be the > > problem; the LVM could potentially really confuse Windows. If you > > used the Disk Druid option to use the free space, this is probably > > what was used (or did you use the manual option?). But your fdisk -l > > in the other thread doesn't look like there are any LVMs. There also > > aren't any swap paritions... > > No LVM. No swap as the guy also changed his RAM to 768 Mb. So a swap > twice this size would take all the space. I don't really think we need > any swap with that kind of RAM! > > > > > > I was thinking as a last resort to nuke everything and re-partition > > > and re-install from scratch. That would be drastic and I would prefer > > > to avoid it as I did so many customizations so that a newbie could > > > easily use FC!!!. Thanks Jonathan and Jeff for answering. > > > > Never an agreeable option, but it may come down to that. Be sure to > > save any wanted data that is still accessible. Is there anything else > > you could boot to try to look at the partition? You mentioned > > Partition Magic, could you do something with it? > > I tried to boot the rescue disks, or rather converted the diskettes > into cdroms. It booted then failed to load partition magic pro. > > > > I installed Linux previously on 20 PC and laptops and never had such a > > > headache. It' s really annoying especially when I wanted to promote > > > Linux and install it on a friend that never used it before. So he > > > really freaked out now! :-( > > > > Understandable. But hey, it's Windows that isn't working now, not > > Linux : ). I'm sure he wasn't quite ready to go all out with Linux > > yet, though. > > Nope it's his first time with Linux. He's not ready to convert entirely. > > > Now, did Linux kill Windows is the question. I've done > > this several times as well and not seen anything like this. > > Me too! Never seen it but it seems that something like this is present > in bugzilla > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=90894 > Comment #11 From J.P. Gonzalez on 2004-12-02 09:39 EST > Ok. I found that the only way to get rid of all these stuff is to wipe out eveyrthing. re-parition correctly and re-install! There doesn't seem to be any other way! duh! -- Cheers, Didier. ------------ Didier F.B Casse | PhD candidate | LiMiNT Beamline Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS), 5 Research Link, Singapore 117603 Email: elprodigioREMOVE_THIS_ANTISPAM_MOJO@xxxxxxxxx| Web: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg | GPG Key 1024D/B3C57D01 2004-06-23