On 3/30/05 11:08 AM, "Alexander Dalloz" <ad+lists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Am Mi, den 30.03.2005 schrieb Ian McKinnon um 20:20: > >> I was quite surprised when I got the email from Alexander that was >> hostile, challenging my expertise at linux without giving me the benefit of >> the doubt that I might have some inkling of what I was doing and did not >> need to explain my whole IT strategy to him. At least he did not challenge >> my manhood also. Then to see the whole string of posts to follow about top >> posting, bottom posting and the rants of David Curry chasing people off the >> list. > >> Ian E. McKinnon > > Ian, > > I must say to be astonished that you react that sensitive on my > legitimate critics and secondly on my questions whether you knew what > your self described intention was. Do you there have a tender spot? > Let me sum it up again: you asked about the possibility to upgrade a > server - attention: you said server yourself, not me - from current > stable release to Fedora Core 4 test 1 release and then to let it run > months, after which you then want to pain free upgrade to Fedora Core 4 > stable. > I not only told you, that you hijacking a thread is something "bad" > because it mixes threads, but I too tried to answer your question with > hints to the difficulty of your plan. I did not only criticise the form > of your posting because you hijacked twice but too because you even > quoted the completely unrelated list mail along with your question. > Thinking about the daily volume of this mailing list, I think it is fair > to point you to that facts. > Finally, if _you_ are asking about upgrading a _server_ system to a > first test release I think it is legitimate to ask whether you know what > you are intending and what background you have (well, not in the sense > of a resume). My reply wasn't hostile in that sense! There are enough > users around who think it is worth to run the latest, greatest release > and applications number they can get, not facing the fact that "test > releases eat babies" (usual phrase to sum up a serious warning). So I > wanted to find out, whether you are one of that kind. While private > desktop users don't have very serious problem if they make their system > unusable by trying an upgrade to a test release, in business > environments running servers (again: you spoke about a server) such a > damage costs time and money. And the other think I explained you is the > circumstance, that there is no in any way supported or guaranteed > upgrade path from any test release to the final stable release (which I > think you hand in mind when you said "FC4 goes gold"). > > Alexander > > "If you can't stand the heat, go out of the kitchen." You are right once again, I said "server" However it was you who assumed (note: assumed) that I meant a production server and railed at me for that. Yes, I do have a problem with people who make those kind of assumptions then back it up with a questioning of abilities and general lack of politeness. It would have been far more polite to simply make a note that test releases should not be run on production servers at which point I would have gone "Like Duh!" and let it pass. At the point you had to interject, you did not know if I meant, production servers, test servers or the server who brought me my lunch today. Just which one of the forty odd servers we have here did you mean? The fault of this was clearly yours in your assumptions and acting about it, please debug yourself.
