Perhaps I should have made myself clearer I am at a point where I can upgrade my testbed server with FC4 test 1, however due to my time constraints in the next few months I do not want to have to do a full reinstall for the gold version of FC4 from CD or DVD. Therefore I was wondering if through yum or apt it will be possibly to do the upgrade to the gold version of FC4 As to the most un-useful reply from Alexander, you are right, I took an expedient way, though perhaps not the best way of posting to this list, so I am posting a 'NEW' message. To which Alexander need not reply. As far as my being the 'right user', I have used linux for about 6 years, though my first foray into Fedora was with FC3 having used SuSE for four years after I got tired of RedHat's upgrade policies. Though now I am beginning to have my doubts after the general friendliness of the SuSE groups to be confronted with such as Alexander. So this was simply a desire for information as to the specific policies of the FC releases. No need to be such a prat Alexander, there are better ways to phrase things. Bis dann, Ian E. McKinnon Coppertree Systems LLC