On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 20:02 -0700, Craig White wrote: > ---- > lam > http://sourceforge.net/projects/lam > > webmin > http://www.webmin.com I've used webmin, but not for LDAP in the past ... I may check that one out. > personally - I use Webmin...of course, the initial LDAP setup is manual > but once structure is in place, I can channel all interaction (manage > user accounts, groups etc. for Posix and Samba accounts, even create > user addressbooks, free/busy URL's etc. in LDAP DSA > > This is the second time you mentioned SELS 9 but I've always seen it > stated as SLES 9 (SuSE Linux Enterprise Server) - just checking if you > are referring to the same thing Typo on my part :) > Often discussed (and I get yelled at by John Terpstra - maintainer of > Samba Documentation) on the samba@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mail list > > Concept is turnkey LDAP/Samba - they use the IDEALX scripts - no doubt > that SLES 9 is using some implementation of them. They vary well may be. > It all sounds real good but you end up with administrators that aren't > entirely certain what LDAP is, how to maintain it, how to fix it, how to > secure it and how to get other applications to work with it. People are > <SNIP> > Watching the masses turn off SELinux on this list because they don't get > it should be a clue as to how well a Samba/LDAP turnkey solution is > going to go over...lots of angst hurled in every direction. It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish with the distro/tool. Novell/SuSE seem to be focusing on taking the same space that MS currently has. The problem I think your trying to point out is simple tools can make simple things easy, but once somebody needs to do something a little more complex that they hit a wall and tool gets in the way because the person using the tool does understand how things work underneath. Paul