Greetings; I just updated my SA install to 3.0.2. That involved figureing out what was wrong with the original /etc/sysconfig/spamassassin files as it had an old option -a in it. Then I thought I had it going, until I looked at the /var/log/maillog, and this falls out for every message handled: ------------------------- Mar 23 02:16:28 coyote spamd[7111]: connection from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] at port 38816 Mar 23 02:16:28 coyote spamd[7111]: info: setuid to root succeeded Mar 23 02:16:28 coyote spamd[7111]: Still running as root: user not specified with -u, not found, or set to root.Fall back to nobody. Mar 23 02:16:28 coyote spamd[7111]: processing message <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAcd8O1fewg0mPgj9MZMRc1cKAAAAQAAAAFVOAFW8MhUC2gvMgkQ8k8QEAAAAA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> for root:99. Mar 23 02:16:28 coyote spamd[7111]: cannot write to /root/.spamassassin/bayes_journal, Bayes db update ignored: Permission denied Mar 23 02:16:28 coyote spamd[7111]: clean message (2.4/5.0) for root:99 in 0.7 seconds, 22204 bytes. Mar 23 02:16:28 coyote spamd[7111]: result: . 2 - BAYES_50,HTML_80_90,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_BODY,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_HTML scantime=0.7,size=22204,mid=<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAcd8O1fewg0mPgj9MZMRc1cKAAAAQAAAAFVOAFW8MhUC2gvMgkQ8k8QEAAAAA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,bayes=0.437626144745654,autolearn=no ------------------------------ when I started the upgrade, and after, I had a /root/.spamassassin/bayes_journal file, but it dissappeared at some point after I had inspected it with less. So I touched another one and set the mode to 0666 and the owner to nobody:nobody which it indicates its running as in the above log snip. The daemon won't even start if I set the "-u root" in the option string. Back at SA-2.64, root owned all that stuff, so I'm puzzled as to why the nearly 2700 byte "bayes_journal" file dissappeared to, and why it cannot write to the new one regardless of who owns it, as shown above. Mail seems to be comeing in ok, but it appears that the spam is going into a black hole as opposed to the JunqueMail folder in kmail like it was before. Any clues here, or urls for a mailing list? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.34% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.