On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 14:39, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:31:03 -0500, Scot L. Harris <webid@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Under no circumstances can I support arbitrary limits placed on how > people are able to use their computers running Fedora. You feel it is > a good idea to hold the hand of people installing Linux to the point > of playing mommy (IMO). I reject any notion that the level of > interference you are asking for is necessary. Based on that then linux should ship with iptables disabled with no option to turn it on at install time. Or to install with no root password set. Neither one of these are good ideas. I'm not saying to take away the ability to run unlimited on your own machine. Just put some reasonable defaults in place at install time which 90% of the users out there will never even hit let alone know about in normal day to day operations. For those that have specific requirements they can still change the limits or set them to unlimited if they want. I'm just saying if you put a safety switch on a gun lets ship it enabled instead of disabled. It might keep a few people from shooting themselves in the foot, particularly those that have not handled guns before. :) Those that know guns can still easily turn off the safety when they get ready to use the gun. -- Scot L. Harris webid@xxxxxxxxxx phosflink: To flick a bulb on and off when it burns out (as if, somehow, that will bring it back to life). -- "Sniglets", Rich Hall & Friends