On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 08:55:35AM -0800, Pat Pleate wrote: > The point is this: > 1. Common courtesy needs to be used by everyone. > 2. One should ask before leaping and assuming. Rick was courteous and he did ask first. > Additionally: > > --- Jeff Kinz <jkinz@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Except in this case, the local IT department has > > placed a stop sign > > in the middle of a straight, empty stretch of four > > lane highway > > with no intersection or any thing else around for > > twenty miles. > > Much like I-94 is a tollway through Illinois but a Sorry Pat - The stop sign was your example - You don't get to turn it into a toll booth for the sake of convenience. Bzzzzzzt :-) > > They are just spouting policy without good reason > > and demonstrating > > either extreme ignorance (shhd = server) or > > duplicity. > > I'm sure the policies were setup accordingly due to > similar situations arose in the past. They have the > right, and probably for good reasons. Any IT dept that equates sshd to a server is either not up to snuff technically (and in a really bad way.), or they are being duplicitous. (Thats another word for lying) > > > They can only get away with this where their > > management is not technical > > or their management is more interested in building > > an empire then > > providing service. > > When a person doesn't want to take responsibility for > their own actions and don't want to extend common > courtesy, that's just as much to blame. Everybody > wants to blame someone else, instead of finding the > facts, learning to follow the rules/protocols, and > working together. Instead, certain persons continue > to be self-centered/important and feel that they can > do whatever they want. Yes the above is true but does not apply to the situation Rick described. -- http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.