> Thirdly, as far as I can see NetworkManager > tries to make my WiFi card (a bog-standard Orinico Gold PCMCIA card) > perform operations that it is not capable of, > causing my laptop to hang. Have you tried the cvs version of the drivers from: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/orinoco/ I had similar problems with lockups etc. and the upstream drivers fixed the issue for me, > Fourthly, as you mention it is not clear what relation > NetworkManager has to NetworkManagerInfo. > On my laptop the latter program sometimes starts the little windmill icon, > and sometimes does not, It works for me 99% of the time right now, not bad for a bleeding edge feature IMHO. <snip> > A working network wizard would be a great addition to Linux. > Sadly NetworkManager does not currently fulfil that role. Again it 'just works' for me, just have to compile the upstream drivers when I uprade kernel. Hopefully some of the upstream functionality will make its way downstream in the not so distant future. Bests JS