Re: Difficulty getting a large disk mounted

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On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 08:26 -0700, Robin Laing wrote:
> Jeff Vian wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 15:54 +0000, Nigel Wade wrote:
> > 
> >>mconsidine@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>The hardware brower recognizes this as
> >>
> >>>>>>>    Device Start End   Size(MB)  Type
> >>>>>>>/dev/hdd
> >>>>>>>    /hdd1  1     1460  11453     fat32
> >>>>>>>           1     1460  11453     Free space
> >>>>>>>    /hdd2  1461  7296  45779     No filesystem
> >>>>>>>           7297  7298     10     Free space
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>Sorry for creating any confusion.
> >>>
> >>>The drive has data on it that I want to move over to the FC3
> >>>system already installed.  The data is in a Windows
> >>>filesystem
> >>>structure and I don't want to have to put it into another
> >>>system, boot it, hook it up to the LAN, etc.  I just want to
> >>>get the existing FC3 system to recognize it so that I can
> >>>pull
> >>>the large files off that I need.  Once that is accomplished,
> >>>repartitioning it using and ext2 or ext3 filesystem would be
> >>>perfectly fine.
> >>>
> >>>Imagine the situation as this : you've got a perfectly well-
> >>>running FC3 installation.  Now you need more diskspace. 
> >>>Someone
> >>>hands you a harddisk that had Win98 and it's filestructure
> >>>on
> >>>it.  The disk was formatted (apparently) using EZ-Drive. 
> >>>You
> >>>are welcome to reformat the disk, but only after copying a
> >>>number of files over to the FC3 installation.
> >>>
> >>>That's as clear as I can make the situation.
> >>>
> >>>TIA,
> >>>Matt
> >>>
> >>
> >>According to installations instructions I found for EZ-Drive, you cannot use 
> >>a EZ-Drive formatted disk with anything but Windows. From the partition 
> >>table you showed earlier that would seem to be the case. /dev/hdd1 shows as 
> >>FAT32 and may be ok, but the rest of the partition table doesn't make a lot 
> >>of sense.
> >>
> >>What do you get if you run 'fdisk -l /dev/hdd' from a command line?
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > Now you are tickling some long buried memories.
> > 
> > Is EZ-Drive one of the disk compression tool that were popular some
> > years ago?   If so, it _will_ only work in Winblows and the only option
> > I know of is to put it in a windows machine and use the LAN to move the
> > files.
> > 
> > I have not used those tools since drives of 6GB and larger came
> > available, but I know they had the driver for the compression on the
> > boot sector so it will work with Winblows, but not on other OSes.
> > The actual data was in a compressed file, not written to a filesystem.
> > 
> > 
> 
> This is a good answer.  It isn't really a compression program but a 
> translation program to work with larger drives than the bios or OS 
> would handle.  I also found that EZ based drives may not work on newer 
> motherboards as they are detected properly by the bios.
> 

Now you are getting back to even more fogged memory. :-)  I dimly
remember a time when drives were larger than the BIOS could recognize
and the drivers needed to map them for BIOS to handle. Have not used a
machine with that old a BIOS for some time though.

> I now remember this software and found this link that will explain 
> that what you say is the only way.
> 
> http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/translation.html
> 
Good point, and a handy reference for those times when needed.

> Instead of spending all this time to get around the problem, put the 
> drive in an old computer and transfer the files.
> 
> I did see that there was a kernel patch some time ago that would allow 
> drives with overlays to work.  Search google for an answer.
> 
> -- 
> Robin Laing
> 


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