On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 10:03 -0800, jdow wrote: > James, this is "a good thing" for diligent system administrators who > are paid to lock down systems properly. It is not good for the typical > desktop system with an owner who wants to do what he wants without > jumping through fancy OS hoops. And it's those and desktop systems which > are the real attack and spam amplifiers out there. > > And note I added the word "diligent" above. With a diligent system > administrator none of the recent .edu and .com breakins should have > happened regardless of the particular OS used. (It is possible to lock > down OS-X, BSD, and even XP to a remarkable degree. Too many > institutions do not bite the bullet and pay for the system administration > they really need. That means holes exist.) > > Belt and suspenders is a good approach even if some people only use > (or need) the belt and others only use the suspenders. If both exist > then there is a better chance of seeing to it that Linux does not > become yet another malware host and amplifier system. > > {^_^} <- on whom suspenders look "odd" due to certain bumps. > ---- agree with all of the above except that I have yet to see evidence of these alleged certain bumps - perhaps Joanne would care to share this evidence so one doesn't have to accept assertion offered without factual evidence. Craig