Hi, Im facing the same problem.The progress dialogue proceeds a bit and nothing happens.I do not have broadbamd hence i would like to download only critical updates and patches.im going thru yum hope its less complicated. if u find any solution,plz let me know. Rajev On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:15:31 -0500 (EST), fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx <fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Kernel 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 (Dave Jones) > 2. Re: Linux Desktop for university staff (Anthony E. Greene) > 3. Still no parallel port printer with 2.6.10-1.766 ! (Kim Lux) > 4. Re: Linux sucks? <depending on what you are trying to do!> > (bizzorg) > 5. Re: New install. Partioning advice please. (Nat Gross) > 6. Re: Linux Desktop for university staff (Matthew Miller) > 7. Re: Password (Alan Horn) > 8. Re: Linux sucks? <depending on what you are trying to do!> > (Kim Lux) > 9. Re: Kernel 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 (David Curry) > 10. Re: Kernel 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 (Dave Jones) > 11. Re: bad gnome-terminal or bad script? (Johnathan Bailes) > 12. Re: Password (Robert Storey) > 13. Re: booting Fedora 3 from boot disk (Johnathan Bailes) > 14. Re: Kernel 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 (David Curry) > 15. Re: Kernel 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 (Dave Jones) > 16. Re: Linux and Spywares - lack of reading (David Curry) > 17. Re: Linux and Spywares - lack of reading (jdow) > 18. Re: Linux sucks? <depending on what you are trying to do!> > (Johnathan Bailes) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dave Jones <davej@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:12:39 -0500 > Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 > On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:09:02PM -0500, David Curry wrote: > > I downloaded the 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 kernel today and promptly rebooted to > > give it a spin. > > > > My system froze up fairly quickly and then repeated that performance on > > reboot. The only way I was able to recover control of the system in > > both instances was through pushing Reset on the box. > > > > On the first occurence, I had stepped away from the machine for several > > minutes and returned to discover a screensaver pattern on the screen > > with system completely unresponsive to mouse and keyboard. > > > > On the second occurence, I stepped away for a few minutes and returned > > to find a dialogue box displayed on the desktop advising that the volume > > control applet had died suddenly and asking if I wanted to restart it. > > I selected "No". Within seconds the Gnome panel at the bottom of the > > screen disappeared and the system was unresponsive to mouse and keyboard. > > > > Is anyone else experiencing this system behavior with the new kernel? > > Did you try the .13 one too ? I'm curious if this is something > introduced by the exec-shield fixes. > > Dave > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Anthony E. Greene" <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:13:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: Linux Desktop for university staff > On 14-Feb-2005/15:36 +0200, Murat Tepegoz <tepegoz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >Dear all, > >I am trying to build a linux desktop especially for the assistants and > >professors in the universities. I wrote down my alternative programs curerntly > >using. Please add comments, new programs, or suggesstions. Write down also > >your favorite programs so that others will learn. > [snip] > > > >Filezilla: gftp is good enough. kbear is buggy (always crashes somehow). > > Why not just use the FTP functions built into Nautilus (or Konqueror)? > > ftp://host.domain > ftp://user@xxxxxxxxxxx > ftp://user:password@xxxxxxxxxxx > > Tony > -- > Anthony E. Greene <mailto:Anthony%20E.%20Greene%20%3Ctony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx%3E> > AOL/Yahoo Messenger: TonyG05 HomePage: <http://www.greene-family.org/tony/> > OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D > Linux. The choice of a GNU generation <http://www.linux.org/> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kim Lux <lux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:21:37 -0700 > Subject: Still no parallel port printer with 2.6.10-1.766 ! > > Ever since about 2.6.9-1.741, I've been unable to get our server to > recognize our Lexmark parallel port printer. Kudzu doesn't see it and > nor can I manually configure it with system-config-printer. Needless to > say this is getting extremely frustrating ! > > Does anyone have any ideas on getting a printer > recognized/installed/working with these newer kernels ? > > -- > Kim Lux, Diesel Research Inc. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: bizzorg <bizzorg@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:22:04 -0500 > Subject: Re: Linux sucks? <depending on what you are trying to do!> > My favorite Operating system vendor is the one sending me commission or royalty checks, since I'm not receiving money from any vendor, I DON'T have a favorite. > > I have FC3 installed on my 2nd hard drive. There are a a few issues I have with FC3 that I don't have with Win/XP. > > 1.) My Sound Blaster 7.1 is not supported in FC3. > 2.) FC3 tolerates my Nvidia Geforce video card. I have not found drivers yet. > 3.) I'm running up2date but it's doing NOTHING! I place my pointer on the progress window and all I get is the hourglass. > 4.) One of my favorite games, Age of Empires is a Windows based game. I supposed if I take the time to learn Wine I can play it on FC3. > > I do like the fact that Spyware or viruses do not infect my system with Linux activated. > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Nat Gross <natgross.rentalsystems@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:26:01 -0500 > Subject: Re: New install. Partioning advice please. > Rick Stevens wrote: > > > Nat Gross wrote: > > > >> Markku Kolkka wrote: > >> > >>> Nat Gross kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika tiistai, 15. helmikuuta > >>> 2005 19:12): > >>> > >>> > >>>> I would like to have a /usr/data structure (or /data) where I > >>>> store data from ALL apps. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> /usr/share already exists for that purpose. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Also, a /usr/myPrograms structure, for programs that I > >>>> 'manually' (not from the distro) install. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Use /usr/local or /opt > >>> > >>> You should read the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard before adding new > >>> branches to the directory tree: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> You are correct that I need to adhere to standards.However, my > >> situation is that I logon with multiple id's to this machine > >> (different security roles/rights) and I want the same set data for > >> almost all of my programs. Same with programs. > >> Are you saying that /usr/share and usr/local is meant to cover this > >> scenario? > > > > > > Precisely. /usr/share is there to share data among users. /usr/local > > is for locally-installed programs, etc. (don't expect to find the same > > /usr/local stuff on all systems). > > Thank you all; > -nat > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - > > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > > - - > > - Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. - > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:26:15 -0500 > Subject: Re: Linux Desktop for university staff > On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 06:55:52PM -0500, David Curry wrote: > > Like you, I tend to use OO far more than either Gnumeric or Abiword and > > find the ability to export pdf files a feature that extends well beyond > > trivial. > > For what it's worth, Abiword and Gnumeric can easily print to PDF files as > well. > > -- > Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> > --> Fedora Users & Developers Conference, hosted by Boston University <-- > February 18th, 2005 <http://fedoraproject.org/fudcon/> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alan Horn <ahorn@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:29:09 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: Password > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, kate wrote: > > >> I need to create an account for a child on my > >> machine and for that i need > >> to make a very simple password. But when i try to do > >> that the system > >> answer that this password is based on a dictionay > >> word and refuse to do > >> it. > > Simple passwords are generally bad. However, if you understand the > implications the passwd command will *allow* it, the 'Based on a > dictionary word' is merely an advisory response. > > Continue to enter the password and it will take and set it to that value. > Or it used to, haven't tried iin a whlie. > > Putting aside the wisdom of teaching your child about good passwords (must > be 'this tall' to use system ;) If you're going to continue with the > simple passwd choice, then you need to be sure that your machine isn't > accessible from the internet using that username and password combination. > > Theres probably several different ways to do this, but off the top of my > head I don't recall wi th Fedora. Perhaps others can help on that piece. > > Cheers, > > Al > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kim Lux <lux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:30:25 -0700 > Subject: Re: Linux sucks? <depending on what you are trying to do!> > Comments below. > > On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 19:22 -0500, bizzorg wrote: > > My favorite Operating system vendor is the one sending me commission > > or royalty checks, since I'm not receiving money from any vendor, I > > DON'T have a favorite. > > > > I have FC3 installed on my 2nd hard drive. There are a a few issues I > > have with FC3 that I don't have with Win/XP. > > > > 1.) My Sound Blaster 7.1 is not supported in FC3. > > I dunno anything about this. I suspect that it can be supported with a > bit of work. > > > 2.) FC3 tolerates my Nvidia Geforce video card. I have not found > > drivers yet. > > Visit nvidia.com. They have drivers there. They are not trivial to > install and every time you change kernels you must re install them. > > > 3.) I'm running up2date but it's doing NOTHING! I place my pointer on > > the progress window and all I get is the hourglass. > > If you just installed, I suspect your system is trying to sort out the > dependencies with installing about 500 upgrades. I'd leave it run > overnight and see what happens. You do have a broadband connection, > right ? > > > 4.) One of my favorite games, Age of Empires is a Windows based game. > > I supposed if I take the time to learn Wine I can play it on FC3. > > Dunno. > > > I do like the fact that Spyware or viruses do not infect my system > > with Linux activated. > > There is a ton of stuff to like about Linux. Give it time. > > > > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > -- > Kim Lux, Diesel Research Inc. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Curry <dsccable@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:36:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 > Dave Jones wrote: > > >On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:09:02PM -0500, David Curry wrote: > > > I downloaded the 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 kernel today and promptly rebooted to > > > give it a spin. > > > > > > My system froze up fairly quickly and then repeated that performance on > > > reboot. The only way I was able to recover control of the system in > > > both instances was through pushing Reset on the box. > > > > > > On the first occurence, I had stepped away from the machine for several > > > minutes and returned to discover a screensaver pattern on the screen > > > with system completely unresponsive to mouse and keyboard. > > > > > > On the second occurence, I stepped away for a few minutes and returned > > > to find a dialogue box displayed on the desktop advising that the volume > > > control applet had died suddenly and asking if I wanted to restart it. > > > I selected "No". Within seconds the Gnome panel at the bottom of the > > > screen disappeared and the system was unresponsive to mouse and keyboard. > > > > > > Is anyone else experiencing this system behavior with the new kernel? > > > >Did you try the .13 one too ? I'm curious if this is something > >introduced by the exec-shield fixes. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > NO. I wasn't aware that there as a .13 kernel, Dave. I moved from .12 > to .14 when the up2date icon advised that non-kernel updates were > available and learned that .14 had been released. The non-kernel > updates installed in the same update session were > xemacs-21.4.17-0.FC2 > xemacs-common-21.4.17-0.FC2 > xemacs-info-21.4.17-0.FC2 > Freewinlibs-1.11-42.1.i386.rpm > > None of the non-kernel software has been used. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dave Jones <davej@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:44:30 -0500 > Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 > On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:36:36PM -0500, David Curry wrote: > > Dave Jones wrote: > > > > >On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:09:02PM -0500, David Curry wrote: > > >> I downloaded the 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 kernel today and promptly rebooted to > > >> give it a spin. > > >> > > >> My system froze up fairly quickly and then repeated that performance on > > >> reboot. The only way I was able to recover control of the system in > > >> both instances was through pushing Reset on the box. > > >> > > >> On the first occurence, I had stepped away from the machine for several > > >> minutes and returned to discover a screensaver pattern on the screen > > >> with system completely unresponsive to mouse and keyboard. > > >> > > >> On the second occurence, I stepped away for a few minutes and returned > > >> to find a dialogue box displayed on the desktop advising that the volume > > >> control applet had died suddenly and asking if I wanted to restart it. > > >> I selected "No". Within seconds the Gnome panel at the bottom of the > > >> screen disappeared and the system was unresponsive to mouse and keyboard. > > >> > > >> Is anyone else experiencing this system behavior with the new kernel? > > > > > >Did you try the .13 one too ? I'm curious if this is something > > >introduced by the exec-shield fixes. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > NO. I wasn't aware that there as a .13 kernel, Dave. I moved from .12 > > to .14 when the up2date icon advised that non-kernel updates were > > available and learned that .14 had been released. > > It was in the updates-testing pool only. > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/i386/kernel-smp-2.6.10-1.13_FC2.i686.rpm > > If you could give that a try and find out if it also has problems, > that would narrow it down a little. > > Dave > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Johnathan Bailes <johnathan.bailes@xxxxxxxxx> > To: cs@xxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:46:01 -0500 > Subject: Re: bad gnome-terminal or bad script? > On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:20:51 +1100, Cameron Simpson <cs@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I can think of two reasons. > > > > Firstly he's learning expect, so who cares what he's using > > underneath? Also he _needs_ something that expect has to interact with > > if he's going to play with it. > > > > Secondly, and perhaps more relevant, is if he's intending this stuff to > > run in batch mode (cron, whatever) then he'll need a passphraseless key > > for that, and that's as bad as a password. > > > > Well not quite, in that the far end never sees the private half of the > > key while a password _is_ sent to the far end, but it does mean the key > > is in the clear at the near/calling end. > > > > So yes, keys are slightly better that passwords, but not enormously > > better if it's a batch mode requirement. > > Also once he gets this working he can always crypt the password. > > Here is something to read on the subject: > > http://wiki.tcl.tk/3594 > > Secure expect. > > Arguing methods can take forever. And I have seen decent encrypted > pass expect scripts and used ssh keys as well. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Robert Storey <y2kbug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:48:43 +0800 > Subject: Re: Password > On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:13:49 +0000 (GMT) > John Hodrien <johnh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Chadley Wilson wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 15 February 2005 17:03, Alan Peery wrote: > > >> Eric Tanguy wrote: > > >>> I need to create an account for a child on my machine and for that > > >i need>> to make a very simple password. But when i try to do that > > >the system>> answer that this password is based on a dictionay word > > >and refuse to do>> it. So how it is possible to assign a simple > > >passwd to just one account ?>> Thanks > > >>> Eric > > >> > > >> For a young child this may be the wrong choice entirely. I would > > >> consider setting the machine to auto-logon, and start the GUI > > >session as> that user. This allows you to keep a good, non-crackable > > >password on> the machine for their account, so that it is hard to > > >crack open that> machine via the network. > > >> > > >> I am afraid that I don't know if there are hooks for auto-login in > > >> Fedora Core... > > >> > > >> Alan > > > > > > Whats your child name and your surname? > > > > > > I did my sisters (who was 4 at the time like this) > > > > Create the user then reset the password as root. root is allowed to > > set stupid passwords. > > > > Then assuming you're only exposing something like ssh, why not just > > restrict which users can login through it: > > > > AllowUsers daddybear mummybear > > > > jh > > Or else disable ssh entirely on the machine if it's not being used. > There are several ways to do that - easiest is to use ntsysv and turn > off ssh so it doesn't start on bootup. > > cheers, > Robert > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Johnathan Bailes <johnathan.bailes@xxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:48:35 -0500 > Subject: Re: booting Fedora 3 from boot disk > On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:55:43 +0000, Paul Howarth <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Bootpart (http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm) is a tool you can use > > under Windows to configure the Windows bootloader to add an entry to > > chain-load another bootloader (e.g. grub) from another partition. I use > > it fairly regularly and it's very convenient. > > > > Paul. > > Damn you people and all your good knowledge my bookmarks are getting > longer and longer each day trying to keep up with all the great links. > > Thanks. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Curry <dsccable@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:57:29 -0500 > Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 > Dave Jones wrote: > > >On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:36:36PM -0500, David Curry wrote: > > > Dave Jones wrote: > > > > > > >On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:09:02PM -0500, David Curry wrote: > > > >> I downloaded the 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 kernel today and promptly rebooted to > > > >> give it a spin. > > > >> > > > >> My system froze up fairly quickly and then repeated that performance on > > > >> reboot. The only way I was able to recover control of the system in > > > >> both instances was through pushing Reset on the box. > > > >> > > > >> On the first occurence, I had stepped away from the machine for several > > > >> minutes and returned to discover a screensaver pattern on the screen > > > >> with system completely unresponsive to mouse and keyboard. > > > >> > > > >> On the second occurence, I stepped away for a few minutes and returned > > > >> to find a dialogue box displayed on the desktop advising that the volume > > > >> control applet had died suddenly and asking if I wanted to restart it. > > > >> I selected "No". Within seconds the Gnome panel at the bottom of the > > > >> screen disappeared and the system was unresponsive to mouse and keyboard. > > > >> > > > >> Is anyone else experiencing this system behavior with the new kernel? > > > > > > > >Did you try the .13 one too ? I'm curious if this is something > > > >introduced by the exec-shield fixes. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NO. I wasn't aware that there as a .13 kernel, Dave. I moved from .12 > > > to .14 when the up2date icon advised that non-kernel updates were > > > available and learned that .14 had been released. > > > >It was in the updates-testing pool only. > >http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/i386/kernel-smp-2.6.10-1.13_FC2.i686.rpm > > > >If you could give that a try and find out if it also has problems, > >that would narrow it down a little. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > I have a single processor and have never tried a smp kernel. Would the > .13 kernel work on my system? > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dave Jones <davej@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:05:40 -0500 > Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.10-1.14_FC2 > On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:57:29PM -0500, David Curry wrote: > > > >It was in the updates-testing pool only. > > >http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/i386/kernel-smp-2.6.10-1.13_FC2.i686.rpm > > > > > >If you could give that a try and find out if it also has problems, > > >that would narrow it down a little. > > > > > I have a single processor and have never tried a smp kernel. Would the > > .13 kernel work on my system? > > There's a UP kernel in the same directory.. I just cut-n-pasted the first one > I saw.. > > Dave > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Curry <dsccable@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:12:40 -0500 > Subject: Re: Linux and Spywares - lack of reading > jdow wrote: > > >Of course you do know of the recent exploits found for Mozilla, aren't > >you, Brian? What's this "No antivirus needed" I hear about for Linux? > > > >{^_-} The quibbler. > > > > > "Recent exploits found for Mozilla" is news here. Care to elaborate or > point me in the right direction? > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "jdow" <jdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:13:58 -0800 > Subject: Re: Linux and Spywares - lack of reading > From: "David Curry" <dsccable@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > jdow wrote: > > > > >Of course you do know of the recent exploits found for Mozilla, aren't > > >you, Brian? What's this "No antivirus needed" I hear about for Linux? > > > > > >{^_-} The quibbler. > > > > > > > > "Recent exploits found for Mozilla" is news here. Care to elaborate or > > point me in the right direction? > > Ran across it in the Dartmouth IRIA news summaries yesterday. It's > scrolled off. It appears to affect the core of Mozilla so it affects > FireFox as well. It should appear in the CERT advisories. > > It appears Mozilla is getting more attention from crackers now that > it is starting to command a noticeable market share. It's a matter of > time before more serious items appear. Of course, without things like > ActiveX it's a little harder to mash a Linux machine than a Windows > machine. > > {^_^} > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Johnathan Bailes <johnathan.bailes@xxxxxxxxx> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:15:03 -0500 > Subject: Re: Linux sucks? <depending on what you are trying to do!> > On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:22:04 -0500, bizzorg <bizzorg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > My favorite Operating system vendor is the one sending me commission or > > royalty checks, since I'm not receiving money from any vendor, I DON'T have > > a favorite. > > > > I have FC3 installed on my 2nd hard drive. There are a a few issues I have > > with FC3 that I don't have with Win/XP. > > > > 1.) My Sound Blaster 7.1 is not supported in FC3. > > Did a search and no love. Sorry. > > > 2.) FC3 tolerates my Nvidia Geforce video card. I have not found drivers > > yet. > > http://nvidia.com look up the linux drivers -- Then I got thought you > should be able to get the 3D glory from that card even with the open > stuff. > > > 3.) I'm running up2date but it's doing NOTHING! I place my pointer on the > > progress window and all I get is the hourglass. > > Sounds like you have never, ever got this to update right? > > You can run up2date with the command options but your best option is > probably a good old-fashioned trip to the Terminal and then su - to > root and run a yum update. > > Yum is typically way faster. > > > 4.) One of my favorite games, Age of Empires is a Windows based game. I > > supposed if I take the time to learn Wine I can play it on FC3. > > > > Transgaming and wine might be able to help you. > > But ... Transgaming does sell linux ports. Linux Games Publishing I > believe sells native linux games. > > I have had good luck with this site but other people have reported trouble. > > http://tuxgames.com > > At the very least it gives you an idea of the games available in linux. > > > I do like the fact that Spyware or viruses do not infect my system with > > Linux activated. > > > > I like that too. > > After being forced for over a year to use a 2000 and now XP laptop at > work I wrote the following Slashdot Journal entry: > > http://slashdot.org/~ACK!!/journal/94071 > > 7 Things I miss about Linux > > But there is good news I got my little Ultra 5 at my desk decked out > with Solaris 8 and blastwave.org packages and it works pretty damn > well considering how ancient it is. > > The menu redraw rate for the Applications menu is actually better than > Linux, go figure. > > Weird. > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > -- © 2005 Rajev Mhasawade