Hi all On my network there are two routers, ---.1 and ---.2. I added both as default gateways: any add default gw ---.1 (obviously I'm keeping the any add default gw ---.2 1st 3 octets secret :-) so that the last couple of lines output by "route" are:re: default fddi-prod-r2.zk 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 default fddi-prod-r1.zk 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 ...in the hope that if one of these goes down, I'm still good... Am I kidding myself? What's the kewl way to achieve reliability? -- Douglas Frank HP Co. ZKO 110 Spit Brook Rd. The older I get, 603-884-0501 Nashua, NH USA 03062 the better I was.