> $ startx >X.out 2>X.err > Okay, I've run it again and I'll give you more info. $ vi X.err produces: E325: ATTENTION Found a swap file by the name ".X.err.swp" Owned by: root dated: Wed Feb 2 17:59:55 2005 File name: root/X.err modified: YES user name: root hostname: localhost.localdomain process ID: 3114 While opening file "X.err" dated: Thu Feb 3 11:22:14 2005 NEWER than swap file! (1) Another program may be editing the same file. If this is the case, be careful not to end up with two different instances of the same file when making changes. Quit, or continue with caution. (2) An edit session for this file crashed. If this is the case, use ":recover" or "vim -r main.c" to recover the changes (see ":help recovery"). If you did this already, delete the swap file ".X.err.swp" to avoid this message. Swap file ".X.err.swp" already exists! I press open to open anyway... produces: X Windows System Version 6.8.1 Release Date:17th September 2004 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.1 Build Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-667 #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25 EST 2004 i686 Build Date: 20 October 2004 Build Host: tweety.build.redhat.com Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.org to make sure you have the latets version Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.9-1.667 (bhcompile@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (gcc version 3.4.2 20041017 (red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3)) #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25 EST 2004Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Feb 3 11:22:14 2005 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" That's all there is in that file - two default settings. Now lets try X.out: Totally empty file! I also checked "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" that's also empty. Next idea? I'm getting a bit worn down by this now... Thanks so far for the help guys, Duncan