Open a terminal , do su - enter root password then type this code: gedit /etc/sysconfig/desktop you'll see DESKTOP="GNOME" Change to this DESKTOP ="KDE" DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE" This way, you boot directly into KDE and shutdown without switching to the menu (plus ya get that cute dragon -- ******************************************************** When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle. It makes the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain and gag himself. ************************************ Registered Linux User: #376813 jim lawrence 128-10-93-85-10-128-98-112-6-6-25-126-39-1-68-78