I found some seed tarballs somewhere on the fedora pages, cvs-core-devel-20050127.tar.gz cvs-extras-devel-20050127.tar.gz untarred them in /opt/rhcvs, and tried several versions of make in /opt/rhcvs/devel/openssl . make just gives me errors. For instance, I need a look at the sources, so I tried "make sources" and curl says curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404 make: ***[libica-1.3.5.tar.gz] Error 22 So I tried doing cvs by hand. In /opt/rhcvs/adhoc, I did "cvs co openssl". That didn't give me any errors. It set up a completely different directory structure than the seed has, but didn't complain. So I went to /opt/rhcvs/adhoc/openssl and tried a make sources, but no sources target. So I just tried a plain old make, and it says updating . through devel and leaves me at the command line. "make common" is up to date. Looks like everything is up-to-date. So I looked in common/Makefile.common for suspicious targets, and none of those targets seem to work. "No rule to make target." Any help/hope for an old, sleepy, tired, middle-aged wannabe geek here? -- Joel Rees <rees@xxxxxxxxxxx> digitcom, inc. 株式会社デジコム Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800 ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp> **