On Fri, 2005-21-01 at 08:57 +0000, Rob Kirkbride wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote on 21/01/2005 08:28: > > >I made some comparison files from some of my disks, both with a > >commercial shareware encoder for making mp3's and with the ogg > >method. To me the obvious winner at any comparable bit rate was ogg, > >and at quality level 6, its very very difficult to tell the ogg from > >the original, at Q7 there is no discernable difference, and I can > >listen to it all night with no fatigue whatsoever. I don't have more > >than 20 megs of mp3's in my own collection of about 2.5 gigs. and it > >sure beats lugging a 20+ pound cd holder around and getting it > >stolen. > > > > > > > I'd second that. I've had both a minidisc player which uses WMA? and an > MP3 player. I now have an iriver H320 player which uses oggs. To say > oggs sound better than MP3s is a understatement. Being a bit of a hi-fi > nut I used to laugh at people who thought MP3 bore any relation to the > original sound but oggs are massively better than MP3s - (I think i use > quality 7 as I recall). MP3s just seemed to remove all the sublties and > upset the timing - making them tiresome to listen to as you say (and boring) > I'm really very happy with my iriver and it works fine with Linux - in > fact when I plugged into a windows machine here at work it didn't work > cos I didn't have the drivers! > > Native oggs are definitely the way to go! > > Rob > I will defer to those who know about quality. Roxio CD/DVD creator can do mass conversions from many formats to many formats, and I believe it supports ogg. Yeah I know it is windows software, but then again where did the wma's come from if it wasn't a windows machine? I have used this software to rip all of my CDs and some of my cassette tapes.:-) I saved them as mp3s so they would work wherever I wanted to use them. I keep my entire 18GB collection on a small pocket sized USB2/IEEE 1394 external drive, and to play an album I just drop the folder on XMMS {with xmms-mp3 installed} and it plays the whole album.:-)