# uname -a Linux lin-workstation.azapple.com 2.6.10-1.741_FC3 #1 Thu Jan 13 16:38:22 EST 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux message at startup fs type usbdevfs not supported by kernel no doubt caused by line in /etc/fstab none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 Do I remove that line from fstab? I do own a SD memory card reader that may have caused that to get installed when machine was on Fedora-1 I don't recall putting it in there (though I might have at one time). My goal is to make my Kyocera Palm Phone work via USB pilot-xfer /dev/pilot works fine gnome-pilotd doesn't ever see it I was hoping that updated kernel 2.6.10-1.741_FC3 and # cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules KERNEL="ttyUSB1",SYMLINK="pilot" # cat /etc/udev/permissions.d/10-udev.permissions #set Palm Pilot rwx pilot*:root:usb:0666 would make it work Craig