I have filed bugs on both with copious amounts of information: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=139949 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=144863
I don't know what else to do to try and get something moving on these, especially the older one. I don't know how things work with this sort of thing or if I simply have two different systems that can't use Fedora. I don't know if I would have any different luck with other distributions or if this is a strict kernel thing that would follow me to any another disto.
Any suggestions?