why is it that when i try to activate my wireless, it looks to /sbin/dhclient-scripts then it says not found continuing with defaults. where are the defaults? Am i supposed to have a script in /sbin for my wireless? it seems that NetworkManagerInfo is somewhat working now (at least it doesn't crash my notebook anymore) should i remove the profiles i created in neat? (system settings-->Network ). It seems that there are too many tools to connect your wireless device and they all conflict with one another. Any ideas or help would be great, i would like to get this NetworkManagerInfo to work -- ******************************************************** When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle. It makes the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain and gag himself. ************************************ Registered Linux User: #376813 jim lawrence