if i try to use the wireless tools cmds to connect to my AP i cant connect if i get connected as how i've been doing it (Which sucks) 1. after a reboot, open a terminal window su - and type in iwconfig eth1 essid XXXXXXXXX key XXXXXXXXXX i don't hit enter yet 2. i have a network monitor on my panel i click it and click the configure button it then shows me the devices availible to me. i click my wireless device and click the activate button. 3. i switch back to the terminal window, hit enter, and then switch back to the pop-up window that is trying to activate my device. 4. i'm connected to my AP ****************************************** Now, if i try to connect without using the above steps i get this error (all in the terminal) [root@JimsNotebook ~]# ifup ifcfg-wireless essid XXXXXXXXXXX key XXXXXXXXXXXX Error for wireless request "Set Bit Rate" (8B20) : SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported. Determining IP information for eth1.../sbin/dhclient-script: configuration for eth1 not found. Continuing with defaults. ************************************8 it contiues to try to connect, and finally it will say that it couldn't ping the AP So i revert back to my original steps above, and that also will not work til i reboot. I've even tried to stop the network, then restart it. is this a bug i should report, or is my ifcfg-eth1 file not working? what a bout the sbin/ stuff as well? -- Still Learning Linux Still HaTE Microsoft ************************************ Registered Linux User: #376813 jim lawrence