These Usability Problems sound more like personal opinion. I would think from a 'usability' standpoint that having a menu that tells you what's under it without having to click it would be better. For people new to Linux and Gnome, I don't think having a little red picture of a hat wouldn't tell me that behind it all my applications are hidden. Can't you just remove that menu with 'Applications & Actions' and add the little red hat menu button back by right clicking the task bar? thank you! ~ Troyston Campano ~ On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 18:22 -0800, Per Nystrom wrote: > On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 17:44, john bray wrote: > > On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 13:11 -0800, Per Nystrom wrote: > > <snip> > > > 2. Two desktop panels is one too many > > > o The new layout with the GIANORMOUS main menu drawer buttons is > > > ridiculous. Use icons with hover popups to say "Applications" > > > and "Actions" -- don't spell them out in the panel! Also, > > > trying to put the top panel on the left or right sides is a > > > sick joke -- the thing becomes massively thick and can't be > > > resized, probably because of the aforementioned spelled-out > > > drawer buttons. > > > o If the above were fixed, it wouldn't be necessary to have two > > > panels. Leave the desktop as clean as possible, especially > > > vertically. > > <snip> > > > > i'm not sure quite what you're seeing, per, but i'm sure not seeing what > > you are. i set both of my taskbars to autohide and set the size of the > > bottom one to suit me. > > > > now that i'm used to the dual taskbars, i'd NEVER EVER EVER go back to a > > single one. having all my frequently used stuff at the top is > > wonderful. > > > > it seems to me a bit like you have some configuration problem going on. > > Ok, I took some screenshots that will hopefully make everything clear. > I've also come to understand that the hideousness I'm referring to, the > "Custom Menu Bar", can be replaced with the "Main Menu" to get back the > simple old red hat and its single menu (actually, I have no objection to > breaking up the menu -- just to the abuse of the panel the way it was > done here). But anyway, take a look at these pictures if you're still > wondering what I was complaining about: > > http://www.netmagic.net/~centaur/CustomMenubarIdentified.png > http://www.netmagic.net/~centaur/CustomMenuBarOnSide.png > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list