On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:56:31 -0500, Phil Schaffner <P.R.Schaffner@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 23:22 +0100, maeder+rh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > I recently upgraded from FC2 to FC3 using Yum, with little or no difficulty, > > > thanks to some sage advise found in the link below. > > > ... > > > http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Upgrading_Red_Hat_Linux_with_yum.html > > > > thanks for this link! Ever since I started to use RedHat around 1996 I always > > wondered why they made you reinstall the OS for every new release instead of > > updating it with rpm, which was always praised as a tool for keeping systems > > up-to-date. How silly to write boot floppies or burn CDs if you a have a fine > > Linux system already up and running. (not to mention the need to maintain all > > these old releases.) > > FC1 -> FC3 may be a bit more problematic (from General freshrpms.net > discussion list <freshrpms-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>)... > > Subject: > Re: Upgrading from FC1 to FC3 > On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 21:35 -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > > What does that mean for all the additional freshrpms packages which > > > (presumably) anaconda doesn't know about? > > > > It means your deps will be broken. > > > > There's really no good way around it unless you want to update to a > 2.6 > > kernel and remove the 2.4 kernel then try a yum upgrade from there. > > > > I wouldn't recommend it. > > > > > > Anaconda upgrade. > > then yum update once anaconda is done > > -sv > > and > > On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 14:13 -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > > It would be nice if the extra logic that Anaconda does could be extracted > > > or modular so we could use it without having to reboot or in most cases > > > have to be physically available. > > > > it's not extra logic. > > > > the virtue anaconda has is that it runs completely outside of the > > system. > > > > it can do anything it wants w/o concern of the running system collapsing > > underneath it. > > > > that's how anaconda does all that. > > > > -sv > > If you have non-Fedora packages or non-rpm-installed components you may > still have serious dependency problems even after an anaconda upgrade, > and if you use LVM it will interfere with a yum upgrade, thus the > frequent advice to do a clean install. Have seen reports of success > with FC1 -> FC2 -> FC3 yum upgrades. If you want to try that route see > > http://linux.duke.edu/%7Eskvidal/misc/fc1-fc2-yum-hints.txt > http://linux.duke.edu/%7Eskvidal/misc/fc2-fc3-update-with-yum.txt > > Seth is 'da [yum] man! ;-) > > Phil > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Well, there <are> some gray areas with regards to updating, aren't there? For example, someone posted to the list (this or maybe redhat-install) a few weeks ago, to the effect of, 'what is the differrence between FC2 that has been yummed to death, and FC3'? That is a great question. Depending on the situation (hardware, kernel version, recent updates etc), there may be no clear cut answer either. I like to think of them as X+ . Like, I am running FC3+, since I have changed so much from the base system it isn't even funny. If I had to go back to FC3 with a fresh install it would be really weird. However I don't feel the same way about a new version/release number. I choose to stick with what I know. Every now and then I like to be at 'base' where I see how the OS version is able to perform with whatever kernel version I happen to be running. It is more scienfically pure too, since the system has not been altered whatsoever in the beginning (for oh, about 2 minutes). LOL So that is why I choose to do fresh installs with each new version. However I don't throw the old out right away either -- usually do a dual boot so I can have one good system in case there's problems with the new one. I haven't yet done the method of copying them to disk, not unless I am doing kickstart installs. I may try that sometime just for fun. To me it is just easier to burn a cd of everything I need (usually just /home) and I am ready to install and re-mount to get right back where I was before, only better. Marc
