Hi, I've been running RedHat9 for coming up on two years. This past weekend I upgraded my system to FC3. The upgrade went well. After the upgrade I ran up2date and made sure I had the latest. Under RH9 I had a script in ~/.kde/Autostart I used to start up various windows on certain desktops. It looked something like this: #!/bin/bash kstart --desktop 1 konsole -geometry 661x921-0+0 -profile MainKonsole kstart --desktop 2 konsole -geometry 1267x449+0+0 -profile BoincKonsole kstart --desktop 3 thunderbird kstart --desktop 4 firefox Pretty simple. Well, under FC3 it works...sort of. All four windows start but it's a crap shoot as to which desktop each one will open in. I tried adding "sleep 5" before each kstart command and it helped some, but sometimes windows will open in a random desktop. All this worked fine under RH9. Never had a problem with it. I've searched the archives of this list and googled for a report of a similar problem but have come up empty so far. So, before I went too much further, I figured I'd drop a note here just in case someone else knew about this. Perhaps the ~/.kde/Autostart is not the way to do this now. Perhaps kstart has been replaced with something else (kstart --help still shows my syntax to be correct.) Let me know if you need more info - versions of stuff or whatever. If I've missed something in my searches, just point me in the right direction. Thanks for any help. Charlie