On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Ed Hill wrote: > On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 08:48 -1000, Amy M wrote: > > All things considered, this fedora-list has become perhaps one of the > > best forums to learn Linux. Our sincere thanks to those who are > > gracious enough to donate their time answering questions that sometimes > > may seem ridiculous. > > > > My question now is: From what I have read, it appears that if I want to > > do suspend to ram, I have to forgo acpi and use apm. Performance-wise, > > would anyone care to comment on the pros and cons of acpi vis-a-vis > > apm? Thanks again. Definitely system-dependent. Try www.linux-on-laptops.com to see what others have experienced. > > Hi Amy, > > I can only relate my FC kernel-2.6 experiences for one laptop, a > ThinkPad A22p (PIII-900) and they are: > > - with very recent kernels (eg. 2.6.9-1.681_FC3) both APM > and ACPI suspend-to-RAM work > - with both I often need to unload and then re-load the > sound kernel modules > - APM: > - uses *very* little power when suspended to RAM (lasts > for many days starting from a full charge) > - can occasionally have problems with pcmcia (even when > all cards are removed) so I usually use: > "/etc/init.d/pcmcia stop ; apm -s" > and then restart pcmcia after wake-up with: > "/etc/init.d/pcmcia start" - Cycles my miniPCI wireless card, so that resuming puts me on the network where I am, even if I've changed location. > - results in lockups about once every 40--50 suspend- > resume cycles > - ACPI: > - has no apparent problems with pcmcia > - experienced no lockups (in about ~60 cycles) > - uses a *LOT* (perhaps as much as 10X) more battery > power while suspended to RAM Known bug affecing Thinkpads. See Red Hat Bugzilla 142928, which points to http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3022. Other systems may not be affected to this extent. > - suspends and resumes very quickly > - routinely gives a kernel error on wakeup saying > something about interruptable_sleep() but they seem > to be harmless - Does not restart my miniPCI network card. > > Having done many hundreds of suspend-resume cycles using both APM and > ACPI, I've decided to stick with APM to reduce the battery usage. Me too (Thinkpad T41), but I'm hoping to see the fix sometime soon. The suspend/resume cycle is much faster with ACPI. > > Ed > > -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs